Comments : Sad Palms

  • 5 years ago

    by Yakari Gabriel

    Again there's too little noura in this, for me to like this. -_-'

  • 5 years ago

    by Yakari Gabriel

    Well, I don't want to sound rude. but this sounds so Mel-like to me boo.

    • 5 years ago

      by nourayasmine

      Whatever!

    • 5 years ago

      by nourayasmine

      I have heard this too many times only from you and I have no idea what you mean. If it's not too much on you, can you please elaborate? Tell me why and how this is a 'mel-like' piece.

      I appreciate honesty, detailed critique and suggestions too but not the way someone keeps accusing me around. :)

  • 5 years ago

    by Britt

    Actually I agree with Yaki here. You use a lot of the imagery Mel is known for. I know everyone copies everyone as no idea is ever totally original, but a lot of your poetry feels like you grab big parts of Mels poetry and metaphors and use it.

  • 5 years ago

    by nourayasmine

    I still insist you both (M&Ms generally few minutes later lol) tell me what imagery and/or metaphors I am taking from Mel's writes.

    It was actualy a challenge so I don't see my style here because it's forced but still I believe I did not copy anyone else's thoughts.

    Please do tell me exactly which stanza/line/image I have plagiarized.

  • 5 years ago

    by Britt

    I am starting.to get late getting ready for work. As soon as i have time I will. :)

  • 5 years ago

    by Britt

    Here are some key parts that automatically stick out and make me think "Mel". There aren't a LOT here, but if there were only one or two things, it's different. But it seems these are becoming recurring themes in all of your poetry and it just seems odd, too much of it all at once doesn't make it feel like something "noura" wrote, rather "mel", if you get what I mean.

    I'm not saying you're flat plagiarizing. But it seems like these ideas aren't your own. You're a brilliant poet when you write in your own style, so to feel you've taken anothers style for so many poems makes me feel like maybe you're not confident in your own work, which you should be. It's great!

    Here are some key phrases/ideas that strike me as Mel:

    The discussion of languages, using palms and breasts (once she used it in one of her poems *breasts* it's seemed to have shown up a lot in your work), 'round your wrist (she has this line in a poem), using a landmark and streets, February.

    Again it's not the entire poem, but the big, big symbolism here are pieces she does and always has used in her poetry for years. So when others write of it it strikes me as Mel. Again, if it's one or two things here and there it isn't usually noticeable, but here you've written a lot of things that Mel uses in every single one of her poems.

  • 5 years ago

    by Yakari Gabriel

    It even flows like her poetry.

    please...

  • 5 years ago

    by nourayasmine

    So... Nobody can use "breasts" or "February" or a landmark, anymore?

    I read lots of poems talking about cities, streets, seasons, body parts and even the combination of them all. I don't know why I am the only poet receiving such a thing.

    Yaki used to tell me that I'm obsessed with my breasts because they always appear in my poem and now she says I'm plagiarizing?Please hit the report button, I would feel much better.

    If anyone could give me a CERTAIN image that Mel (or any other poet) used before, I'll pleasantly delete my poem.

    --

    This was actually a challenge for me to write of sensuality and that's why I used 'breasts', 'wrist', etc etc. It describes a French man and that's why I used the name of a square.

    I may have no confidence in myself, poetry or word choice but I know I am not a plagiarizer. If anyone thinks otherwise, there are mods on this site whose job is to prevent such a thing. :)

  • 5 years ago

    by Yakari Gabriel

    Stop putting words in my mouth, I did not say you plagiarized. I said it flowed like her poetry, and its very Mel like.

    ofcourse you do not get it, maybe its not your fault you can't see it

    you don't know Melissa's poetry by heart like I do.

  • 5 years ago

    by nourayasmine

    In my opinion, when someone uses other poets imagery and metaphors, it is plagiarism. You only hint at something, without having the guts to say it clearly. You always do that.

    And by you insisting and saying 'please, oh please it flows like her, smells like her, bla bla' I got the impression that you're trying to discourage me somehow, without really helping me or criticizing me. Don't know why, I just felt that.

    I'd then advise you to try to realise that every woman has breasts and they can talk about it.

  • 5 years ago

    by Britt

    Nooo, I'm not saying when you use one thing here and there. Like I write a lot of wine, or toes dipping (or other body parts dipping) a lot, because the imagery and symbolism behind it means something to me. If someone else wrote a lot of things I usually repeat in my own poetry in one poem, then I'd be like hey wait.. that sounded like me.

    But what I mean is when a lot is packed in one, it makes me instantly think of the writer I attach those symbols to, because they primarily use those images in most poems. I hope that made sense lol.

  • 5 years ago

    by Decayed

    The moment I entered this site, Noura is still Noura.

    Her personality may have become a TC one (although I know only 2 or 3 of them), but her poetry is still NOURA.

    So keep it up.
    Stick to this style.

    If two words are similar to other two words in another poem, it doesn't mean that the poet is copying the style. That's gibberish, you know.

    Noura always uses BREASTS and FEBRUARY and APRIL and BOSOM and WINE, etc...

    and always have UNIMAGINABLE metaphors that may cross roads with Mel's style, only, but do not go parallel with them.

    --- Anyway, beautiful art as always.

  • 5 years ago

    by nourayasmine

    I got you. :) I can see where you're coming from and I understand you. Thanks for being honest.

  • 5 years ago

    by The Prince

    Maybe you should stick to haikus Nour ;)

  • 5 years ago

    by nourayasmine

    I wrote this haiku for you, Danny:

    Danny is a poet,
    he writes a lot of good poems.
    That's why I like him.

  • 5 years ago

    by Decayed

    BTW, for more proof, check out Noura's 1st poem ever on this new account: Rhinestone

    It is just the same as this poem.

  • 5 years ago

    by Britt

    Just read it, LP. THATS the Noura I adore, that style. It's the same structure, pace, flow etc, but there is a confidence there that I feel, that I don't necessarily feel here. She owned that poem.

    I'm not trying to be mean, Noura knows that and she knows where I'm coming from. :)

  • 5 years ago

    by Decayed

    If only I could see the difference you are seeing :/
    Yup, I got you, somehow.

  • 5 years ago

    by Britt

    Maybe it's all within perspective. Or mood. I have no clue lol.

  • 5 years ago

    by Yakari Gabriel

    "You only hint at something, without having the guts to say it clearly. You always do that.

    I'd then advise you to try to realise that every woman has breasts and they can talk about it. "

    ....why are you putting words in my mouth again. when did I say anything about your word usage here?. I just said this poem is so Mel-like, must I repeat myself.

    if you can't take opinions on your work or anything you do

    then sit back and do nothing, be nothing, achieve nothing.

    I'm not going to ruin you with false praise. and you know it. when your poetry is noura, its noura and its always amazing.. but this poem isn't in my opinion. I can think what I want. you do not have to agree with what I say.