Formed Poetry Challenge #2

  • Hellon
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    I think all who took part in the previous challenge should be damned proud of their achievements so...next challenge? Well I had one form already in my mind and then a member suggested another. IMO one is more difficult than the other but as you all stepped up and lifted the bar in the last challenge I've decided to post both forms and leave it up to each of you which one you prefer or...if you're really keen do both (no pressure haha)

    #1..Palindrome

    http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/palindrome.html

    #2 Paradelle

    http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/paradelle.html

    Good luck guys.

  • Mr. Darcy replied to Hellon
    6 years ago

    I have just left a comment on Darren's Palindrome. I love the fact it was supposed to be a hoax first of all, but then took on a life of its own.
    As for the Paradelle, this form should prove interesting.

  • Hellon replied to Mr. Darcy
    6 years ago

    Darren has a Palindrome posted? Can you put the link up?

  • Kitty Cat Lady
    6 years ago

    Gulp!! I'll give one of them a go! ;-)

  • Ben Pickard
    6 years ago

    I think Ben (Naughtymouse) posted a fair few Palindromes - he's very good at them.

  • Brenda replied to Ben Pickard
    6 years ago

    Naughty Mouses palindromes are amazing! His are what encouraged me to try them.

  • Mr. Darcy replied to Hellon
    6 years ago

    My mistake - it is a 'Paradelle' - I knew is started with a 'P' sound - lol

  • Larry Chamberlin
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    This is harder than it first would seem, but here goes:

    Gone To Sea (paradell)

    Bess told John goodbye then sailed away
    Bess told John goodbye then sailed away
    and the sun followed her over sea’s edge
    and the sun followed her over sea’s edge
    the sun and Bess sailed over sea’s edge
    told John goodbye then followed her away.

    When it returned she was not aboard
    when it returned she was not aboard
    though search did cast top to bottom
    though search did cast top to bottom
    she was not aboard bottom to top
    though search did cast when it returned

    jumped ship on some romantic isle
    jumped ship on some romantic isle
    lured early by mystery man smooth
    lured early by mystery man smooth
    early on some smooth mystery isle
    jumped ship by romantic man lured

    Goodbye to Bess over sea’s edge
    told was lured away on some romantic isle
    followed by smooth mystery man
    when the ship returned, John jumped aboard
    and did search it bottom then top
    her sun sailed early though cast not she.

  • Darren
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    great effort Larry, it is difficult.

    For now I have a mini palindrome that I combined with an etheree. (and an acrostic I think)

    I'm
    So-So
    Can't love, can't
    Rare smiles, smiles? Rare
    Almost sane ...................almost
    Zest lost........... again,.......... lost zest
    Yearning love..........I............ love yearning
    Beat myself...... daily, myself?................beat
    Always wanting more ...........wanting?.........always
    Destiny?...........why?...Screaming .........."why destiny?"
    ?

    The trouble with palindrome's is it is difficult to have them make sense both ways.

    I had to use punctuation to try and bring some sort of order to it.

    edit**

    another example

    though when I read it, it feels like it was written by Yoda.

    Contemplation - Palindrome

    Purpose discovered?
    Finally I've hope,
    Abhorred this deep digging,
    then daily crying spurned.
    Time wasted forever,
    Hurtful was I?
    hatred had returned.
    Feeling useless,
    this always delivered images
    reflected only desire
    No........
    searching soul hopelessly
    then shivered
    Demon residing deeply, mad this fire.
    Educated? I'm remembering love,
    Raw this feeling,
    a heaven from above.

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Above from heaven
    feeling this raw...
    Love remembering I'm educated.
    Fire this mad deeply residing demon!!
    Shivered
    then hopelessly soul searching
    No!!
    Desire only reflected images
    delivered only this useless feeling
    Returned had hatred....
    I was hurtful
    forever wasted time
    spurned crying daily
    then
    digging deep
    this abhorred hope
    I've finally discovered purpose.

    **Edited as suggested by Hellon

  • Lost One
    6 years ago

    I was always taught a true palindrome was literally read the same forward and backwards, letter for letter.

    My favorite is by Howard Bergerson

    Deliver no evil, avid diva I saw die.
    Render an unsung aria for erotogenic id.
    O never egg Alec Naif, fairer Edna Waterfall, A nonassimilative, volatile reef-dweller-apparelless bragl
    Natasha I saw die, render an unsung aria. For Edna Waterfall-a liar-familiar feuds live: Dastard Ogre and Edna! Pupils, one tacit song or poem-or didos deft.
    Celestial lives (Ida rapt as Naomi)
    Laud smegma, alas-keep never a frondlet on. So did no solo snoop malign
    Irised sad eyen. Oh dewed yenOh tressed May noon, hellol Tacit songs revl
    Love's barge of assent carts base tarts,
    A cerise deb abed, unreined flesh.
    Sin-a viand-Edna sees and Edna has,
    Or bust fossettes, or redder rosettes.
    Soft sub-rosa hand Edna sees, And, Edna, I vanish-self-denierI Nude babe, desire castrates abstractness, A foe grabs Evolver's Gnostic Atoll, eh? Nol On, yam, (dessert-honeydewed), honeyed as desiringl I lampoon solos on didos. Not eld nor far (Even peekl "Salaam, gems dual," I moan) Sat Paradise Villa, its elect fed. So did Romeo prognosticate no slipup, And Edna, ergo, drats a devil's due: "Frail! I'm a frail all a·fret, a-wanderl "0 fair Agnus nun, a red Nereid was I. "Ah Satan, garb's seller, "Apparel (lewd fee) relit a love vital I miss anon. "All a·fret, a wanderer I affiance"Lagger even odic-in ego 'torero'. "Fair Agnus nun, a red Nereid was I. "Avid diva, live on reviled."

  • Lost One
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    I cant compare to the above but here goes...

    TattarrattaT
    By Anthony Krieman

    Tattarrattat...
    Hand knocking
    Over and over
    Time and again
    When not will it end?
    Am I crazy?

    Hahahahah!
    ...Tattarrattat...
    End the sound!
    !TattarrattaT!
    Sound the End!
    ...Tattarrattat...
    Hahahahah!

    Crazy I am
    End it will not. When?
    Again, and time
    Over and over
    Knocking hand
    ...Tattarrattat

  • Larry Chamberlin
    6 years ago

    Tony, I liked yours and Darren's much better than Bergerson's.
    It seemed too many made-up or forced words in his while both of your and Darren's had true sense.

  • Kitty Cat Lady
    6 years ago

    Crikey this is hard! I'm really impressed with all of yours so far. I worked for ages on a paradelle but it was just nonsensical. Here's my paltry effort!

    Music (palindrome)

    Music was I, as
    Lyrics in song and
    Rhythm in bass for
    Drum of beats to
    Tapping feet
    Sweeping bows
    And fingers plucking
    swaying bodies
    Sounding  melodies
    And reaching crescendos

    ~Dancing~

    Crescendos reaching and
    Melodies sounding
    Bodies swaying
    Plucking fingers and
    Bows sweeping
    Feet tapping
    To beats of drum
    For bass in rhythm
    And song in lyrics
    As I was music.

  • Hellon
    6 years ago

    I love all the different styles people are coming up with using the same Palindrome form. Another form that you have conquered.

    Darren this line didn't seem quite right to me the way you have structured it...

    Yearning love......................I love yearning

    Perhaps you could use the I as the reversal point?

  • Michael
    6 years ago

    Hi All :) ooh these are such a challenge. and the ones posted are brilliant well done poets :) Anyway have to give it a go:

    connections:

    light
    Shining and bright
    and beautiful
    Delicately showing touching
    Moon with stars entwining
    Colours twinkling brings vision
    all in all
    memories and
    Love
    And memories
    All in all
    vision brings twinkling
    Colours entwining stars
    with moon touching
    Showing delicately beautiful
    Bright and shining
    light

  • Hellon replied to Michael
    6 years ago

    Michael...you have it all there but the sequence should be the same in reverse, meaning all lines should be the same coming back the way. Your wording is spot on, it's just the lines that need a wee tweak :) And, possibly capitalize LOVE because that's the tuning word (the mirror).

  • Darren replied to Hellon
    6 years ago

    Done as suggested

    Thanks

  • Michael replied to Hellon
    6 years ago

    Thank you Hellon for your help :), I realised after you posted your message, so here is my tweaked version:

    "Connections"light
    Shining and bright
    Delicately and beautiful
    Touching moon with
    stars entwining colours
    twinkling brings vision
    all in all
    share memories and

    LOVE

    And memories share
    all in all
    vision brings twinkling
    colours entwining stars
    with moon touching
    beautiful and delicately
    Bright and shining
    light

  • Larry Chamberlin
    6 years ago

    Love that you guys have all put in great poems in a form rarely used in this site!

  • Mr. Darcy
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    Sorry for the delay - I was working on the other form - man, its difficult!
    .

    Morning arousal (Palindrome)

    now it savours
    wetness, like dew. . .
    mornings bring happiness
    this bird's calling: awake
    me slumbering

    slumbering me
    awake, calling birds, this
    happiness brings mornings
    dew like wetness:
    savour it now

    *thank Brenda

  • Brenda
    6 years ago

    Ok, here it goes....
    Color (line by line Palindrome)

    I live in color...
    vivid shades that design my day
    sunny yellows and sapphire blue
    give me a life of
    colorful possibilities..
    my pallet doesn't always give these-
    some days are void of hues
    shades of grays, white noise really
    turns my days into
    lackluster living...

    Lackluster living...
    turns my days into
    shades of grays, white noise really
    some days are void of hues
    My pallet doesn't always give these -
    colorful possibilities...
    give me a life of
    sunny yellows and sapphire blue
    vivid shades that design my day
    I live in color....

  • Brenda replied to Mr. Darcy
    6 years ago

    Wow Michael, not sure what you are inferring here lol...isnt due suppose to be dew?

  • Darren replied to Brenda
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    Great effort Brenda, works well.

    here is my Paradelle edited to within an inch of it's life.

    An echo of innocence (Paradelle)

    The wide eyes of a child
    The wide eyes of a child
    Hate has hope for the future
    Hate has hope for the future
    The child has hope,
    Eyes for the future, wide of the hate.

    Man is a forgotten love
    Man is a forgotten love
    Forever powerless to defeat oppression
    Forever powerless to defeat oppression
    Oppression forgotten? forever?
    Is defeat love, to a powerless man?

    The past teaches us gravely
    The past teaches us gravely
    A real winner in war? Love is never there.
    A real winner in war? Love is never there
    There, in us, war is the real winner
    Gravely a past love, never teaches.

    The child is forever powerless,
    love the forgotten winner
    oppression teaches us man, a defeat
    To hate!
    Is there a future? Has hope for a wide love?
    In the past, eyes of a war
    Gravely, never real.

  • Brenda replied to Darren
    6 years ago

    First off thank you Darren, I appreciate your thoughts. Second, love yours! It's got great flow and an awesome story line.

  • Hellon
    6 years ago

    I'm glad to see that a lot of you, who doubted your ability to write formed poetry, have managed to pull such remarkable work from the hat!

  • Larry Chamberlin replied to Hellon
    6 years ago

    That “hat” - it’s an Akubra no doubt.

  • Darren replied to Larry Chamberlin
    6 years ago

    There is such a thing as a palindrome hat.

  • Hellon
    6 years ago

    Ok...you guys are hilarious and both of you are correct...there is a hat called an akubra

    https://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/akubra-rough-rider-hat-light-sand-hat-size-60cm-7/751_60_LT_SAND?istCompanyId=d8409198-7d9a-4b69-8cca-04b207c3f146&istItemId=xilmxqrpim&istBid=tzwm&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIooqOtOy22gIVkJO9Ch0XKQ03EAYYAiABEgLRVfD_BwE

    and also a palindrome hat

    https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/palindrome-hat

    The palindrome hat actually gives you a pattern so....next challenge...knit me a palindrome hat or find a way to steal Larry's akubra! I've done it once before haha!!!

  • Ben Pickard replied to Hellon
    6 years ago

    I'm still moderately baffled by this form...

  • Hellon replied to Ben Pickard
    6 years ago

    If you need some help Ben...don't be afraid to ask...

  • Ben Pickard
    6 years ago

    Thanks, Hellon, but I think I might do the cowardly thing and dodge this one...

  • Brenda replied to Ben Pickard
    6 years ago

    You can do this Ben! Free your mind! Lol

  • Lost One replied to Ben Pickard
    6 years ago

    This wasn't my cup of tea either.

  • Kitty Cat Lady
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    My paradelle attempt (took ages!!)

    Cry to the sea (Paradelle)

    Your brow folds like the rolling oceans
    Your brow folds like the rolling oceans
    Your eyes fill with tidal despair
    Your eyes fill with tidal despair
    Your rolling eyes folds your brow
    Like the tidal oceans fill with despair

    You lap at the shore of emotion
    You lap at the shore of emotion
    And wait for the moon to move you
    And wait for the moon to move you
    You move of the moon to shore
    And lap at the emotion you wait for

    Your feelings scrape like sand
    Your feelings scrape like sand
    And sting with the salt you cry
    And sting with the salt you cry
    Cry your sting and scrape salt
    With you, the feeling’s like sand

    At the moon of emotion you move
    The folds with salt-like despair
    And your brow fill to your cry
    The shore you wait for rolling
    Like tidal eyes you scrape the lap
    And feelings sting your sand with oceans

  • Brenda replied to Kitty Cat Lady
    6 years ago

    Miss Kitty, wonderful write! Such a cool style and you really nailed this!

  • Kitty Cat Lady
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    Mr Darcy, Brenda, Darren ... brilliant ... although Darren ... etheree, palindrome AND acrostic!! wow!

    * thanks so much Brenda xx

  • Larry Chamberlin
    6 years ago, updated 6 years ago

    Wonderful paradells!

  • Michael
    6 years ago

    Hello All again :) This was a challenge from a different planet Haha. My brain is frazzled! Brilliant ones here well done to all fellow poets. Anyway it may make sense or not. Mine :)

    "Exploring for answers"

    should love show again, I’ll open deeper places
    should love show again, I’ll open deeper places
    walk in very carefully, values tell the answer
    walk in very carefully, values tell the answer
    show values very open I’ll walk again carefully
    should deeper love tell the answer in places

    find ways to explore, tell me for opportunity
    find ways to explore, tell me for opportunity
    where we can reason, share our thoughts yes?
    where we can reason, share our thoughts yes?
    we can find thoughts, explore ways for reason
    yes the opportunity where to share tell me

    so conclusion will follow, in the end result
    so conclusion will follow, in the end result
    have both gained maybe? and all is united
    have both gained maybe? And all is united
    maybe both end in, gained conclusion is all
    so United and follow, will have the result?

    we can explore thoughts, walk in find ways
    so values share reason?, for deeper ways yes
    tell both all open, the show is conclusion
    will tell where maybe? places have gained me
    I’II end in opportunity, again the result united
    very carefully love, should follow the answer to

  • Darren replied to Michael
    6 years ago

    well done for getting one up there Micheal.
    A great effort

    they do frazzle your brain.

    I found as I wrote the first stanza, I would write down all the words I used.
    In the second stanza do the same but re-use some, same in third.
    That way your final stanza doesn't become too bogged with words.
    Its like a poetry sudoku

  • Larry Chamberlin
    6 years ago

    I understand the rule is to use each word only once.
    I even got rid of duplicate articles and pronouns.