The uk is falling apart

Two random things my mum has mentioned to me currently going on in the uk.

A woman in her 50's has not been allowed to be treated for her cancer because she is too "old", and another young girl who wished her kidneys to go to her mother when she died? her kidneys have not gone to her mother, but some stranger she didn't know.

this government is literally mocking and ridiculing us and torturing every person that is stuck in this country, and it is sick.

In the states there has been cases of old people being stuck in hospitals to die. There was a women who had her parents CPS'd from her because they had a common cold her father died but she manage to get her mother out. They did not feed her father for a week.

What does CPS mean?

Child Protective Services, they steal your kids. Pretty much and now they're stealing old people.

To be CPS'd means they took your childern from you.

Yeah but I live in the uk so I don't really read other news, and i hate to admit that i laughed when you said they were stealing old people.

seriously though, the things that gordon brown is doing for this country right now, half the time no one can believe it. -everybody- has turned against him, saying they would rather vote BMP than have him in charge anymore. We were supposed to have a vote but when did that happen.

thousands of old people are going to die this year because they have to choose between food and heating, we are running out of space in our hospitals for old men and ladies because of foreigners, most of which probably fought in the war to save this country for us, and look how we repay them; the might as well not have bothered. there was a documentary about how old people are treated over here and it is disgusting. they never get their benefits, and if they do, it's a poor amount. in the hospital their food is put out of reach and they aren't allowed to get up, etc, and all gordon brown is focusing on are things such as selling our history, so.

Mostly every country is having a dollar crisis right now. The housing bubble is also causing many countries some troubles. And the world is falling into a food shortage. There has been a few riots in Asia and Africa.

Oooooooh dont get me started on the problems in the UK... seriously...

Allowing illegal immigrants to have free housing and medical, schooling and travel, food supplies and dental while the NHS goes further and further bust - causing them to have to turn down more and more people needing treatments. They're now talking about not allowing smokers to get treatment because its their lifestyle choice - now before you all jump on the bandwagon as anti-smokers - just think about it... does that mean that solicitors and doctors wont be treated for stress related health problems because it was their lifestyle choices that they take such a high stress related job? What about drinking related health problems - liver treatments etc. A 15 year old child needing to get his/her stomach pumped cause they experimented with alcohol and are on the brink of death... its all a choice. A lifestyle choice which makes us individuals is going to cost us the right to get health treatments which we've paid every month for as long as we've held a full time job? But its being freely handed out to people with no right to be living in the UK? PFft... sounds like a right COCK UP to me!

Its so funny to blame...

I found that Labour when ruled by Tony blair created a welfare hungry, lazy society... which is funny seeing as they're no better than the conservatives, but actually a mini me version of them...

Only without Uni's being free...lol.

Sadly Gordan Brown got into position because his lips was so tightly wrapped in Tony's behind, you couldn't believe he could actually speak with perfumed words...lol

Oh mo, it's sick how much i back up every statement you've made. the foreigners.. oh what a joke. we're pretty much handing out old peoples benefits and tax payers money to the people who would just love to bomb us, and are sick of us because they are not white.
You get all these people ranting and raving about how they are treated so unfairly, so why the hell are they here? they do not have a right to say what should and shouldn't be in the uk, they are not british.
The conservatives are ten times better and beyond labour will ever be. labour are a joke and everyone is laughing.

Excuse Bang Bang... Seeing as you fail to understand much less look at people without individualistic critique... Not every foriegner take, complain or ostracise themselves... You're having a very close minded view...

LOL I'm the one with a closed minded view? i was making a generalisation OF the foreigners who post on bbc have your say and make complaints about how everything isn't their perfect way in a country they clearly don't belong in.

''tax payers money to the people who would just love to bomb us''

Terrorism that the CIA, FBI, CI, MI5 and other national agency made up is not real.

Like there aren't these quirky little fangroups of foreigners and sometimes even people from here brainwashed trying to bomb us and mostly failing pathetically.

"Terrorism that the CIA, FBI, CI, MI5 and other national agency made up is not real."

Ryan - are you TRYING to discredit yourself on here? Are you seriously swallowing down this nonsense that you call fact whole heartedly with no question of fact or fiction?

I see... so terrorism is a made up thing... Im not one to generalise - Im not saying "foreigners" are the problem... IM A FOREIGNER... but I would think it unfair if I were to come to the UK and expect handouts. I would think it unfair if I were to complain about not having a nice enough house if I refuse to get a job and earn my way. THAT is what Im saying here. And as for the question of terrorism - if there is no terrorism in the world and it was all "made up" like Ryan seems to think, I wonder how all these people are arrested with tube maps and underground plans in their houses... I suppose its in case they get lost one day and should happen to find themselves on the outside of the tube with nowhere to go. And Im guessing the "nasties" that they usually find with them - gas or items to make bombs and such are for warmth, should they still be down there once night falls. I hear nail fires are the best way to keep warm underground.

I have no idea how this got so off topic - but the condition of this country and how its going down hill has got nothing to do with TERRORISM - they take up a small percentage of foreigners. But no matter how small that percentage - they still exist.

Now as for Santa Clause... THERE is an individual MI5 said was dead... but I still got a present last year...

AMEN MO.

"Since the beginning of 2007, 57 people have been convicted on terrorist plots."

and someone was robbed over here, and then got charged because the man got injured in their house.

I agree the UK has it's fair share of problems, without a doubt!

We are facing a meltdown in the housing market which (as always does) will be passed slowly onto the consumer markets. That's the start of a textbook recession if I ever saw one.
We (everyone, regardless of if you think they should or shouldn't be "allowed" in the country) need to dig deep and keep the economy afloat in the difficult times that are about to come. The Bank of England made a move in the right direction recently by cutting the base rate by another 1/4 percent (for the 4th time since Oct).

"thousands of old people are going to die this year because they have to choose between food and heating,"

BANGBANG:
I hate to burst your bubble here, but I don't know where you are getting your figures from. I'll hazard a guess that you are relying on information from the tabloids.
We are expecting no more O.A.P's to die this year than any other year, let alone for the reasons of "chosing between heat and food". Pensioners are given an additional allowance simply for heating.

For Customers aged 60-79:-
- £200 for customers who are the only eligible person in a household
- £100 each, if there is more than one eligible person in the household

For Customers Aged 80 or Over:-
- £300 for customers who are the only eligible person in the household.
- £150 each, if there is more than one eligible person aged 80 and over in the household or;
(Figures courtesy of the Home Office.)

200 is the minimum amount for eligible people, that's a whole lot of heat just for the winter months!

~Pete.

Actually i saw a documentary about old people in the uk which gave me some of the stuff i have said, and my brother also checks news sites constantly so.

I don't know if i'm wrong or i'm right but our old people DEFINITELY are not treated fairly.

I'm the one with a closed minded view? i was making a generalisation OF the foreigners who post on bbc have your say and make complaints about how everything isn't their perfect way in a country they clearly don't belong in."

Did you not hear the words "close" "minded" "view"...Or am I just speaking to the wall here...Lol.

Yes, hear yourself. These people fled their own country to seek refuge from their war torn or poor lives....

And if they wish to complain against the ill-treatment they recieved...Is it not their right to do so.

There is a small percentile that actually use the Home Office to their advantage, however I believe that they should be blamed, rather than the whole refugees...

Erm..lol. maybe we don't live in the same country, Noir.

I have seen countless amounts of foreigners walking the streets like it is their own, in their full body gowns covering everything but their fingertips and eyes, staring you up and down like you are somewhere in the wrong.
and if it's such a "small percentage" claiming houses and medical care for free then why are we being taxed so much and it's never put to good use? the only thing that our tax money is ever spent on is luxury for the foreigners and golf trips for the government.

"These people fled their own country to seek refuge from their war torn or poor lives...."

aha. i'm sorry, anyway, if their lives are so BAD beforehand, so utterly repulsive and war stricken, why do they still shout their mouths off about how england is so bad? that they deserve endless rights and cash and that racism not be invented for them but to hate on the riches and the whites, or somebody that isn't like them? you are going to call me racist but it's times like these when i don't really care. if their life there is so bad, why do they claim their life here is so utterly poor and disheartening and it's just a concern really isn't it to all the people who aren't handing their tax money straight to them!

and why are there big celebrations in their original countries burning the english flag etc? you seem to be very sensitive in defending these people, and i do not mean "these people" like the ones who come over here, get a job, don't give you filthy looks in the street, buy their own house, and speak the english language, rather than those who come over here and work in telephone lines where you cannot understand one word they say, where you are seen in town and they look at you like you are scum, which i have seen PLENTY of to go around, and i am not going to take any of this back because it's how i feel, and what i have seen.

I don't care if i am closed minded about this because they flock like sheep and claim what's not theirs.

"I have seen countless amounts of foreigners walking the streets like it is their own, in their full body gowns covering everything but their fingertips and eyes, staring you up and down like you are somewhere in the wrong."

Not, of course, to imply that all "foreigners" wear full-body gowns (and even those that do, that it is wrong) and look like they hate the people they want to help them... Certainly racism flows in two ways, but it seems somewhat more justified (or less harmful) when it goes from the minority to the majority, rather than the powerful hating the weak.

I don't live in the UK, but we have some similar issues recently in America, especially considering immigrants (both legal and illegal) who have been coming in great numbers from Mexico/Latin American countries. Many people feel as though they are taking away resources that ought to be kept only for "real" Americans. But how did Americans become Americans? Our country is basically comprised of wave after wave of conquerors and hopefuls - those seeking to dominate, and those seeking sanctuary. Maybe there's never a clean transition... everyone who arrives before always mistrusts those who arrive after. The point is... most people are just looking for a better life. Sure, it's not right to demand things that other citizens can't get, and they should do their part to put back into the country that they wish to gain from...but then again... how does one come to own something? Is is not exactly by claiming it as theirs?

Well this was originally about the government, who are the people bending backwards to give the foreigners everything they think we aren't worthy of having. I honestly think gordon brown is trying his hardest to leave us in the ruins.

when it comes to it, I will not be rude to a foreign person to their face unless they are glaring at me like i have done something terrible other than walk around in my country. america is full of foreigners, almost pushing it towards being a multicultural country, but england is a tiny island, it is not big enough for the amount of people sneaking into this country. and what about the people who come to england and knife a shop owner? (like i am currently watching a programme on [road wars]), or the men who come over here for one day, rape and kill a teenage girl and return to wherever they came from.

It just disgusts me that when you hear a story about an innocent person being raped/killed/both on the news, it almost always turns out to be someone originally not from here, and that is why i have a problem. also the fact that we are packed full of polish now, the polish pushing more babies into our country than we are.

one in four children in the UK being born have at least one foriegn parent, so, that's why i do have a problem with the amount of people breaking the law to get here, or even getting here successfully and not exactly claiming, but expecting what the government is more than happy to offer.

oh, and I also do find it offensive that they wear in pride something that their husbands used to force them to wear to prove they weren't worthy of showing skin, it's like it is somehow a statement, but all it really is is an annoyance. you escaped from all of that, why are you still wearing it? because i hardly see how it is religious to change something they used to wear due to abuse and being lesser to the men and make it some sort of holy thing.

Its soo funny how adamant your ignorance is... Lets see... Britian may be a tiny island but it helped enslave most of the world... Its funny how such a small island can do that...lol

You've generalised and misunderstood the basic concept of who truly can call themselves british...

because according to you, white skinned anglo-saxons are allowed to do that... You might as well join the BNP... for such ludicrous views...

People have a right to complain, people have a right to assimilate into new surroundings and people have a right to get whatever help offered... There are those who take advantage however one mustn't blame the whole people for the foolishness of the few...

btw, women wear those garbs because it was their free choice ... duh! and it brings them closer to their religion and tradition/culture

See, how is that their RELIGION and CULTURE? first they complain because their husband forced them to wear it in hot countries because they weren't allowed to show skin, now it's got some symbolic meaningless religion to it.

yes, white people whose parents are british deserve to be called british. foreigners who have absolutely no attachment to britain are foreigners. i don't believe in that whole, a foreigner goes to america and becomes american thing, obviously we don't share the same views but i believe in having more rights in your country if you're born there rather than a million extra people being added to the country and all claiming to be considered faithful to the country.

years ago there were 20 thousand people in kent, now there are 120 thousand people. it's a joke. we enslaved countries with the best leader we've ever had, that doesn't mean they all rushed over here, does it?

can i ask you a question, are you getting worked up and defending the foreigners because you are one, or because you truly believe that all the pakistanis, chinese, arabs, muslims etc, deserve all the rights in the world to a place where they despise the people? i may be stereotyping a hell of a lot, because i know not all people are like it- but it's getting to the point where you have to see some people as a threat.

57 bomb threats since the beginning of 2007.. mm nice.

This is a question that can make you jump up and down,

In New Zealand like most western countries has had influx of immigration but unlike England we have a small population so require a population lift or so we're told to boost our economy. I'm not saying there aren't problems, they bring different cultures different values, it takes time for acceptance and understanding.

But at the end of the day we are one population and in another 1000 years or so if we survive that long we will all look the same no black no white no Asian no whatever just one race.

England and all of Europe's history is beset with shifting populations massacres conquering armies, English heritage is rife with it, the Anglo's the Saxons the Normans, Celts, Romans. there's nothing new to this, the only difference is that they didn't kill everybody to make way for the new migrants

Assimilation doesn't happen overnight but a number of generations

Celebrate the differences they are there to stay look at what they can offer, not all are terrorists.

"yes, white people whose parents are british deserve to be called british. foreigners who have absolutely no attachment to britain are foreigners. i don't believe in that whole, a foreigner goes to america and becomes american thing, obviously we don't share the same views but i believe in having more rights in your country if you're born there rather than a million extra people being added to the country and all claiming to be considered faithful to the country."

But you have to come from somewhere, don't you? Even people whose families have been in Britain for 300 years might not have started out there. If you go back far enough, there are no "original" British people... they all come from somewhere else. How long do you have to live somewhere in order to be considered a part of it? And also... what about black people whose parents are British? Or asian or indian or spanish in descent, but their parents became citizens? Are they "true" Brits, or do you have to be anglo-saxon? I guess I'm just confused about the distinctions you're making...

We had the same kind of argument when Polish workers started to flood the country. People were saying that they were coming over to England and claiming all sorts of ludicrous benefits. That the government just bent over backwards to give them everything they wanted, not neccessarily what they -needed-.
Peoples misconceptions are that the immigrants get special treatment ... simply because they are foreign. I'm a government employee and I can honestly tell you that this is just not true, everyone is given the same treatment. Every single person that attempts to claim -anything- is viewed impartially and assessed based on how great their need is, and what their eligibility is. 92% of the Polish people that came over here, went straight into employment ... So much for there being no jobs.

I think this thread started off being about the problems that are occuring in the UK, not about race and definitely not about someones right to be in the country. There are people who are better placed to make those decisions.

One thing that I am deeply concerned with at the moment is that Gordon Brown seems to be deliberately forcing the GBP down to a point where we have no other choice but to join the Euro. Ohhh the day that we are forced into the EUs shaky financial meddling is the day I emmigrate to OZ! G'day wompa.

~Pete.

Ok firstly, I think what Lucy is trying to say is that the Government should take care of its own first and foremost (the people that have been paying taxes, working, contributing to the economy and the community as a whole) before it looks after the immigrants. There are enough problems in the UK's own backyard which they need to focus time, effort and MONEY into before providing free this and that to every immigrant that walks through that ever-so-efficient Terminal 5 airport.

Now I've worked a few years in Immigration, Housing and Family law in the UK - publicly funded by the Government to people needing legal advice in those areas. I've seen first hand what sorts of things are made available to the population that qualifies the government's pre-requisites. These are good services, which are needed in any country. However, without generalising, I did notice that the majority of the people taking advantage of this system in our office and from the statistics that I was seeing in our monthly reports, was that most of our clients receiving free housing or rental assistance, free food, schooling for their children etc were immigrants. The legal advice alone given to these people comes in at millions of dollars (the Government paying for people to screw the government - strange)... and I would be all for people getting what they have a right to - but its the ones that are illegally in the country, the ones that come back time and time again complaining about things that are standard and usually not taken for granted by these people - as usual its the minority of those people that cause them to receive a bad name. Its also unfortunate that so many areas are slowly but surely getting worse and worse - the disrepair of council houses, the hospitals, the GP's being forced to work longer hours and take on more patients (irrespective of the Occupational Health and Safety standards being overlooked to achieve this), police force having to take on civilians as "mock-cops" to be able to cope with the increase of population and crime on the streets, the NHS being so grossly over their budget that they probably wont correct themselves in our lifetime, old age homes being understaffed and in need of maintenance... all of these things are crying out for money - money that is not available.

Of course Brits are going to see that these immigrants are being a strain on their resources. People that have spent their entire lives paying council tax, road tax, income tax, NHS tax, pension fund tax etc etc are now finding that all their money they have been spending on all this tax is now servicing others - others that have not given anything to their community. Its not the Polish, its not the Arabs or the Pakistanis, its just an overpopulation which seems to be increasing as the days go by, and which is being encouraged by a government who has no funds to back up their promises (what's new?).

Its not racism. Its natural.

However, I can see where the argument comes into it with people living here, taking up spaces, resources etc and claiming how much they hate this country and the Brits - does make me seethe too (and Im not even British). Also, if someone comes into a country to take refuge and to make a life, they have the right to dress how they want and believe in their religion etc, but the way that changes have had to be made to accommodate certain religious groups is not fair on the British people and their religion. This country was founded upon Christianity and therefore if they want to put up Christian Christmas lights in the city, they should be able to. However, this has now been banned because it has caused offense to another religious group - I dont see how that is fair.

Too much tolerance, to the brink of submission, could spell the end of a culture of its own. And THAT is when people start to immigrate to OTHER countries (such as you Pete)... and so the cycle starts...

Yeah Mo definitely said it better, I'm not being racist I was just annoyed. Sib, I don't MIND black people, asian people, pakistanis, arabs, with english parents at all, it's the ones that come over here with a whole family to feed without a benefit of the doubt they are treated right away, leaving our poor homeless people STILL on the street.

Why do we never care enough about our own country, when we're willing to home the rest of the world? I will move this onto what it originally was, although a lot of the problems in the UK are to do with it's over-population. Just because we managed to rule over some countries years back, doesn't mean we can fit the whole world onto one island.

I think Mo has really summed it up the best I (n)ever could.

the government banned a Doctor for eating a pork sandwich because it was "offensive" to any muslim person that may have happened to be watching him in the hospital.
why is it that we have the time to focus on minor issues such as pleasing religious views that aren't necessarily even from this country, yet we can't sort out our hospitals, or homeless people?

our priorities are always somewhere else, when other people are in greater need. if you go to london you can pretty much see a homeless person every 2 streets near night time, and they sure as hell aren't being swept up, housed, given a job and fed, are they?

Please... Racism stems from inequality and hatred... Its funny how racism began after the abolishment of slavery... Its quite nice if they are below us...but to call them equal or even british is blasphemy...

Lucy, I'm perturbed because I obviously assumed that I as a son of foriegners can call myself "british" and be accepted as one... to which I am...obviously not here...

All I saw here, and please correct me if I'm wrong here... Is a person foolish generalisations coupled with staunch racist views with added ignorance... I also saw inherent excuses and stereotypes along the way...

My family arrived to UK because they believed in a better future... Just because one stereotypes people into bad heirarchies does not mean its true... Britian became what it is now because of foriegners... they deserve the right and freedom to complain...or am I wrong.

"are sick of us because they are not white."

Not every Brit is white.

"I also do find it offensive that they wear in pride something that their husbands used to force them to wear to prove they weren't worthy of showing skin, it's like it is somehow a statement, but all it really is is an annoyance. you escaped from all of that, why are you still wearing it?"

Their manner of dress and the reasons behind it are their own. For many there is a difference between being forced and making a choice. I may not like it when it seems like you are demanding I wear something, but if I come to it of my own freedom it is a choice I could embrace.

I do know that hatred won't end hatred though and no matter what anyones thought on foreigners entering their country, legally or illegally and the comforts they are given, it is the government that allows such things. I think instead of such rash generalizations of all foreign people, you have to specify who you are talking about because there are many productive, respectful people who do not deserve to be grouped with those who take advantage of any system.

..lol.

to each their own, am i wrong? this is my opinion, i am allowed to have it. i believe that the people i have seen, the people i have read about, the people who murder and kill, (but of course, you consider them british, so who really IS foreign at the end of the day?) should not be here.

" they deserve the right and freedom to complain"- so you come to a country by your own choice and then think you can demand anything you like? we have enough to complain about getting merely back on track, let alone catering to every foreigner that steps inside our doors. you think i'm ignorant, i'm just being honest.

at the end of the day, this is not one of those countries filled with random races and they are all british, because i know a hell of a lot of people right now who feel the same way i do- we are sick of seeing at least 1 out of every 2 people being foreign whenever we look outside the car. is that racism? may very well be. i guess i'm racist then.

" inequality and hatred"- haha i only feel hatred to people who truly deserve it, you are assuming i'm some hateful cow that doesn't see the facts straight and hates anyone who does anything i'm distasteful of. and i'm inequal? how so.

i do not understand your second paragraph at all, you're saying with two foreign parents you thought you could call yourself british? isn't that the opposite? both your parents were foreigners = foreign in britain.

how on earth did britain become what it was because of foreigners? plenty of them don't bother to learn the language, and are very lazy. you're going to say i'm stereotyping again, and making a generalisation, but there are enough of them to make a generalisation about them, and i am not talking strictly about ALL foreigners, i am talking about all of the foreigners who do the same thing, such as request and demand and complain when they came over here by choice. if it's so bloody bad, leave, nobody asked for them to be here.

I do find it offensive that they wear something from their religion proud as day, and then ask US to please remove pork from hospitals, and put mosques where old churches were. and if they are going to come into our country, they are going to accept that the majority of people will not like it if they wear something like that, because it's just the way it is. i do not need to give an explanation, a lot of people feel this way with me, and if they feel like it, then they shouldn't be able to wear it. we all dress normally, so should they.
and by normal i do not mean that covered head to toe in a robe in all weathers.

though, i can see none of you agree with me, i stick to everything i have said really. if you were where i was, (and you're going to deny it and call me "ignorant") you would feel the same way i do. and just because you haven't seen them all, or watched the same documentaries, or read the same things, or had the same experiences, and i am coming off racist when i don't mean to at all, this is how i feel, and you can't call me ignorant for my beliefs if you have never trodden in my shoes.

thank you.

I feel like laughing at you but pity overwhelms the feeling... I truly feel sorry for your views...

You seem to judge an entire people just because of a handful... you called all non white people as foriegners...and you state that everyone comes in here to demand free services, please...!

Do you not see the generalisation and stereotype and racist undertone?

It sounds petty, jealous...and sounds childish. You might as well join the BNP... seriously I can discount every argument you just made but truly you can't change a mind of a person who is intolerant... You merely pity them...

Its truly sad...

Oh really?

lol.
well i'm not having a hard time laughing at you.
anyways.
this is done then.
let's move onto something else, like, say, what it was originally about, the uk government, which i admit does hand out the free for alls.

I'm glad you pity me though, shows how kind you are, doesn't it.

yeah yeah yeah i sense all your backlash coming in response to this post. let's avoid each other, we bash heads on everything, even things as inane as the media.

ps.
you never answered any of my questions or explained why you feel the way you do- maybe that's for the best, but i consider you the ignorant one if you make a bunch of statements and don't bother to back them up.

Lol... So how does it feel... It feels good laughing at another's argument... funnily enough I just answered the question among a hundred rhetorical questions you seem to want answered when proving an argument...on why I use so many 'lol's'... sadly you fail at proving your point seeing as Mo chose to elaborate what you're getting at...lol

But like I said I pity you... I often wonder how such an angry ignorant borderline xenophobic girl can live in a multicultural society... They should make a reality show on ya... lol

Now as to my statements that don't seem to be backed up... Here's what you can do... scroll up at the beginning and see how your views were argued against...

Maybe then you'll understand that evidencing on an ignorant emotionally charged thread isn't the right way to go... and I'm not into faux-statistics, it makes the opinion I have fake... 1 in 10 psychologist agreed with it....lol

But I find you fun to play with... All in all...lol

Your post had nothing worth responding to other than insults.

so, what's the point.
i suppose i should add about 10 lols

lol
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do i sound like you now?
instead of insulting me and contributing nothing; how about add to the subject at hand?

Yes... but easy on the 'lol's', you also need a light humour, truth, a dash of laughter, and a virtual spoon to add into the brew that is my posts... your views my dear already tainted this sad thread, so actually there is nothing to discuss, hence the off topic fun... Do you understand or am I to expect more questions that wstes time...lol

I figured you'd understand the current tone of the thread...

If you're not going to contribute anything other than petty insults you have no reason being here. if you cannot put one issue in the uk you would like to discuss rather than trying to mock me, you are wasting your time.

you are the one who spun off track, my dear, and you may think your whimsical sarcastic ways are intelligent and charismatic but they are not.

good night.

....read the thread and you will see?

But my dear I have contributed (funnily enough I would joke and point out the similarities between your first sentence and your views on foriegners...lol), but I wasn't trying to mock you, like I said I pity you... and I never insult the person, merely state what is evident... but again if I were to insult you, I would state the apparent contradiction to your claim that I use petty insults when clearly you've done the same...

But ofcourse, there is nothing to speak about seeing as you clearly tainted this thread... And everything I've said in this thread... Does not require intelligence... merely experience and observations... Duh! lol

Experiences and observations of being a foreigner, it seems.

" pity"- you don't find that to be an insult? you keep saying i've tainted the thread bladdy blah blah blah, if you aren't going to say anything about the uk issues again and are only directing your posts at me, I see no use having you in here.
unless your next post is actually useful, you might as well not post again, should you really? because you're steering drastically off course, and you may say I did the same, but the foreigners are an issue in the uk, as much as you like to think they are not, and that it's fine to hand down houses to any old country that sweeps through our doors as long as we don't feed our homeless. SO.

once again.
stick to the subject and stop trying to "provoke" everyone. If you want to sneak insults into your posts and then deny doing it; pm me, don't ruin the thread, yeah, the one you claimed I already had so there was no point going on about it? that one.