evolution

"Darwins" theory (because he was the one who came up with it, and it was expanded upon by others). "
Yes...I am very much aware.
My point of my post previous to that one was that people were commenting that because Darwin himself was denouncing his own theories (because of lack of evidence which we have today) and because Darwin said this, Darwin didn't say that, Darwin's theory was wrong. Which, does not make sense because they are generalizing the facts and reality of a theory to the founder who lived in a different time and place without the facts we have today. So, yes the other scientists are relevant considering they are indeed my point that the whole theory cannot be based on one man considering the difference in science and facts that we have today.
That's like saying that a man who denounced the various Gods in the roman empire's time period was wrong because he had no explanation at that time of nature's mysteries.

"There are [scientific] THEORIES (Big Bang "theory"), but they are nothing more than that. No one can call them "scientific fact," because they simply are not FACT, they are scientific philosophy, and they should work, "theoretically."
Yes, then why did you make the point about the evolution theory not being perfect in the first place?

I havent read this whole thread, I think that's where we are missing each others points.

MY only point (not expanding upon anyone elses, because I havent read the thread) is that the theory of evolution (in its entirety, Darwin's ideas and everyone esles) is incomplete and not scientific fact, regardless of who's answers you take. There are holes, and that's why no one can say that evolution has been scientifically proven, evolution is a scientific theory. Gravity is proven, there is a difference.

"So, yes the other scientists are relevant considering they are indeed my point that the whole theory cannot be based on one man considering the difference in science and facts that we have today."

It may matter in the disagreement that you are having with other people in this thread, but it's not relevent to what I'm saying because I am not seperating them in the first place. The theory of evolution is still incomplete, no matter whos opinions and theories you include.

"Yes, then why did you make the point about the evolution theory not being perfect in the first place?"

Because that was my entire point. No scientific "theory" is perfect, therefore the THEORY of evolution cannot be either.

I am not in any way standing up for the Bible's theories either, because I dont necessarily believe that either. I believe something totally different, and I believe both theories are wrong, but that's my opinion.

Yes, I do know that evolution is in fact a theory, and for the most part I believe it is our reality but I am willing to accept it is wrong IF concrete evidence comes around that does in fact disprove it.

Alright, considering there have been previous posts of eachother's we obviously didn't read, I don't think we can argue any further about this point considering we will just go around in circles.

But I'm sure we shall debate later on
:)

Undoubtedly.

Ultimately I dont think we disagree, I just havent read the thread.