jealousy will get you.

Jealousy is a real and powerful emotion and one that's messed up good relationships in my life.

I wonder, can we ever truely be in love without the 'green eyed monster' (jealousy) being present at some point? Are there ways to overcome it? Does it consume you?

Definition of jealousy: zealous vigilance, a feeling of jealous envy.

I don't think we can ever truly be in love without jealousy coming in the way at some point of the relationship. Jealousy means that you love the person so much you don't want to let go and you don't want somebody else to get the person either, but it can get "unhealty" too. Everyone feels jealous sometimes and a little bit of jealousy is totally natural and it's part of human nature.

It's a choice if jealousy consumes you or not. If you're so jealous of someone, let go of that person. It ruins your own life if you have to fret about others so much.

I have more to say, but are you talking about the jealousy between man and woman, between friends, or just people in common?

Satuxxa

I guess I'm talking about the jealousy that can ruin couples.

Yes, jealousy can ruin the relationship between couples, but only if they let it. If a seed of jealousy starts to grow between them, they should stop it before it grows more. Sometimes, of course, the person you're married with can be/get so jealous that you cannot stay with them though because they won't even let you go anywhere, and in that case it's not your fault if the relationship is ruined by the jealousy.

It all depends on the situation.

Satuxxa

Some people are more jealous than others, I dont think that it has to do with love or relationships nearly as much as it has to do with the people individually involved. If you can TRUST your lover, the jealousy doesnt affect you nearly as much.

That^= BS.

Why is it ignorance? I know plenty of insecure and jealous people who know better.

no there will always be that green eyed monster because people these days dont trust one another as they should because if you love someone then you'd trust them but if you love them also you'd think twice before you cheat or any thing to make your other half jealouse

Well, I look at it this way.

With the advent of 'girl power' many boundries are being crossed by 'some' of you females out there. Here in Britain the 'lad culture' - one of going out on the lager at weekends and getting blasted out of your brains on booze, picking up a total stranger and shagging them, is being copied by women. I stress, again, the word 'some'.

'Girl power', then, which was really a kind of post- femminism was taken to mean by many as let's copy the biggest wanker/s we can find in the male species and return the favour. I see many fits of jealous rage because of this.

Believe me so many relationships are on the rocks at the first hurdle because the desire to be outragous and flirtatious has taken over the desire to be loyal and decent - and this is with both sexes.
Maybe the Mass Media is responsible for this.

As for trust - can anyone be truely trusted these days? In a perfect world, yes. But it's not.

Mel

I'd say yes, you can truly trust someone. Relationships are built upon trust, and sometimes that trust gets broken, but if nobody trusts anyone we'll never know who is trustworthy and who is not. It's usually worth trusting someone.

Satuxxa

Re:

I do agree we must trust someone - but only a bit. Keep an open eye and an open mind. Shit, I'm sounding paranoid.

Rremember Judas?

Hmm.

Yes I do. Well the thing is, it totally depends on the person. I have friends who I would trust with my whole life, simply because of the fact that I know them so well and I trust them. Of course, if they broke my trust I would have a hard time ever trusting anybody again, but trust is still necessary in the relationships we have. If ever found a reason not to trust them as much as I do now though, I would, like you said, keep my eyes and my mind more open.

Satuxxa

Satu:

You say you have 'friends you can trust with your whole life'....'but if they broke my trust'......? Your 'but' is deconstructing your argument. You say you trust with something so precious as your own life and then add, 'but'.

You see, 'trust' is such a smug word. It gives one such an air of confidence and the feeling that 'hey I'm so on track that no one could ever betray my trust, because that's the kind of people I choose to hang out with'.

This sounds negative. I don't mean to be.

I said:

"I have friends who I would trust with my whole life, simply because of the fact that I know them so well and I trust them. Of course, if they broke my trust I would have a hard time ever trusting anybody again, but trust is still necessary in the relationships we have. "

You said:

"You say you have 'friends you can trust with your whole life'....'but if they broke my trust'......"

You're wrong. I said "Of course, if they broke my trust..." You said that I said "but if they broke my trust." There's a big difference there.

The reason I said "if they broke my trust" (NOTE: IF) is because I trust them and I trust that they won't break my trust. But since you think that you should never trust so much, I put the "IF" there to make sure you understand that I understand that there is still the possibility that they could break my trust. It's possible. It's just that I don't believe they will and that is the entire reason why I trust in them.

Depending on the person, one will let trust grow to a certain degree. I myself am a person who trusts, though there are certain people who I cannot trust for certain reasons. I'm sure you have people you trust and people you feel you cannot trust. So does everyone.

Satuxxa

JPM:

I tried the 'swinging' thing, but she kept on taking her neck out of the rope.

Anyway, I wouldn't trust anything with two legs and walks upright.

I have to agree Bob. To me, trust is pain deferred.
Maybe I should stick that in the 'quote' section.