Freemasons - What are your thoughts and opinions?

I'm open minded really but watching this documentary this other had my head spinning about George Bush and Tony Blair, even the British Royal Family. I did a little research so here's some background for those who don't know a great deal...(myself included) But I am interested in learning the thoughts and facts others have to contribute :o)

Freemasons

The Freemasons are often accused of all kinds of things from influencing international affairs to managing interplanetary alliances and treaties.
The problem with research on the subject of Freemasonry, especially on the Internet, is that most of the time religious beliefs and superstitious ideologies get in the way and DISTORT THE TRUTH.
I will attempt to lay out the differences between some of these confusions and set the record straight.

FREEMASONS CONTROL THE WORLD!!
(Thank You Matt Groening)
They do not, however, have a secret alliance with satan, at least not to my knowledge. Although the activities they involve themselves with, would by most people's opinions, (if known) classify as Satanic. They are involved (in the higher levels) in magic and a high percentage of those in Black Magic.
(If they don't control the world, then why are they trying to control the "Freemasonry Watch" website, by having it shut down)

Here I would like to add a comment : Neither this Page nor this website is meant to be "Anti-Masonic". I do not hate the Masons. To the contrary, I have alot of respect for the ingeniousness of their "design". This is what makes it all the more challenging to expose. And challenges are what life is all about. I believe that if the Masons are going to "Push" humanity to it's potential, enough to put "strain" on the spirit of Humanity, by manipulating and influencing world events behind the scenes, then they at least deserve to held to the highest standard possible when it comes to "responsibility" for their actions. This means simply, that they deserve to be exposed and have the full "Light of Day" shined on them. This way, they will truly "HAVE TO" work towards the overall "Good", because if they don't, then it's the "Front Page of the Newspaper" for them!! Masonry itself is not what is bad, but it's means to an end, it's secretiveness and subversion and alot of it's members all contribute to the overall evil that emits from it as an organization. (All Masons are not bad people)
Except for Edward L. King. He is the owner of a website (Masonic Secrets) that attempts (pathetically) to discredit the anti-masonic point of view. He tries (desperately) to keep people from thinking there is anything wrong with Freemasonry, to the point where he misinforms and even lies about what is going on. He must realize that I have the truth about freemasonry on my website and he MUST try to discredit me at all costs. He has me listed as someone "opposed" to Freemasonry.
It is these kind of sneaky, underhanded tactics that Masons have always used to try to dissuade the masses from realizing their ultimate goal. That is why they have attacked me and my website at this time. They have already "taken out" all the freeserver sites that host "opposing info", mostly from buying them all out and forcing the websites off. This is an outright and blatent attempt to try to put pressure on me to remove info. they have been trying to get me to remove since the site went up. This will not work and will only backfire on them since I am only going to expose their dirty, rotten, tactics for all to see. If you were opposed to the views of the NRA or the PTA, or the many Woman's rights groups etc., would you expect them to take your "private name" and plaster it on the web in order to try to "disprove" you? Ask yourself this question, all freedom loving Americans...Would you expect the group you voice opposition to, to take your name and try to slander you, personally on their websites???

1st Secret Revealed : Dedicated to Edward L. King (Reptile-at-Large) (who, were it not for this unique individual, this information would never have come to light)
"While I was working on Venice Beach, I was approached by a young girl, roughly the age of 19. She was a street girl, like a punk, but she had this very nice charm about her. She was a little chubby, and very cheerful. Anyways, she saw my Mason books on the booth and asked about them. We started a conversation and before long she was telling me about her grandfather and how he was a really high-up Mason. She told me that she, herself had escaped from a "drug-house" run by members of the Golden Dawn and Masons out of Pasadena or somewhere. She talked about how she now rescues these youngsters from these places. She described in detail to me, how these young kids were kidnapped or lured there with drugs, and they were kept at these places against their will. They are kept, she said, in a drugged-out state, usually on heroin or speed and deprived of food and nourishment until they agree to do things for more drugs. Then they are taken out and prostituted by these fellows in the Mason and Golden Dawn groups. This was not the most fascinating part, though, because I had heard of several stories of related incidents over the years, through my studies, but what did surprise me was when she told me that her Grandfather kept a book that she once peeked into. It was with his Masonic possessions in a box in the attic. She said it was a "Spiritual Family" chart that showed the "magical children" from secret masonic "spiritual marriages". She told me that she learned that these marriages were often kept secret from the wives of these Masons. (I wonder what they would think if they knew). These masons were apparantly secretly married to women members of the golden dawn etc. who were selected from higher masonic authorities. I have never heard of this before this girl told me and I doubt many others have either, but this incident happened and I don't have any reason not to believe her. We talked about many things and she seemd to have a good handle on reality". "

I have many more secrets to expose, but I don't feel "inclined" at this time to do so, but I'm sure with a little encouragement from people like Mr. Edward L. King Reptile, I'm sure I could sit down and write a few more for you all. If you write him and thank him for making available the secrets he already has, and let him know that you appreciate it, i'm sure he will pester me some more and I will continue to reveal their "dirty little secrets". It should be written as follows : "Dear King Edward, may I apply to you, oh lord, ruler of our kingdom, for permission to learn more masonic secrets and permission to publish those secrets on the internet for millions to view, without who's permission by your highness, I would be left to fend for my own conscience in the vast wilderness of delusional masonic propaganda thou has left for us pitiful servants, oh master" - or something to that effect...well, you get the point..just be nice, remember, reptiles have feelings too, ...or do they?

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To understand Freemasonry thoroughly one must study it intensely. It is not an easily understood practice.
It can be simply explained though.
(1) It is Symbolic. There are various symbols associated with Freemasonry and these symbols each have
meanings, histories and explanations.
(2) It operates on various levels or (Degrees) so one level doesn't always know what the level above
it is involved with or knowledgable of.
(3) It operates in Secrecy, which to them is power. The less you and I know about them, the more
powerful they are over us. This gives the Masons motivation to stay secretive. This also is the general cause of so much disinformation from various "religious sources". Because of the various degrees and secrecy combined, there
are alot of Masons that don't know very much about the power and influence of Freemasonry in the world.

The Freemasons are also NOT the MAIN SOURCE of the Powerplayers. It is only a launching pad or pedestal to the next step or (cross)-initiation into other secret societies. In actuality the membership of alot of Freemasonry may be obtained, therefore most obviously the main power would not lie JUST HERE. Membership in several of the KEY secret societies is
more important overall in the GAME of POWER

Further more here are their beliefs:

Question: "What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?"

Answer: Free Masonry, Eastern Star, and other similar "secret" organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them even promote believe in God and good character. However, beneath this outward appearance, these secret societies hide anti-Biblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices. The following is a comparison of what the Bible says with the "official" position of Free Masonry:

Salvation from Sin:

The Bible’s View: Jesus became the sinner’s sacrifice before God when He shed His blood and died as the propitiation (payment) for the sins of the whole world (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:8, John 3:16).

Mason’s View: The very process of joining the Lodge requires Christians to deny everything Christ accomplished on their behalf. A person will be saved and go to heaven as a result of his good works and personal self-improvement.

The View of the Bible:

The Bible’s View: The supernatural and plenary inspiration of the Scriptures—that they are inerrant and that their teachings and authority are absolute, supreme, and final. The Bible is the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Mason’s View: The Bible is an important book. It is not the exclusive Word of God, nor is it God’s sole revelation of himself to humankind, but only one important book among many religious sourcebooks. It is a good guide for morality. The Bible is used primarily as a symbol of God’s will, which can also be captured in other sacred texts, like the Koran.

The Doctrine of God:

The Bible’s View: There is one God. The various names of God refer to the God of Israel and reveal certain attributes of God. To worship other Gods or to call upon other deities is idolatry (Exodus 20:3). Paul spoke of idolatry as a heinous sin (1 Corinthians 10:14) and John said that idolaters will perish in hell (Revelation 21:8).

Mason’s View: All members must believe in a deity. Different religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.) acknowledge the same God, only call Him different names. Freemasonry invites people of all faiths, even if they use different names for the ‘Nameless One of a hundred names,’ they are yet praying to the one God and Father of all.

The Doctrine of Jesus and the Trinity:

The Bible’s View: Jesus was God in human form (Matthew 1:18-24, John 1:1). Jesus is the second person of the trinity (Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:9-11). While on earth, He was fully human (Mark 4:38, Matthew 4:2) and fully divine (John 20:28, John 1:1-2, Acts 4:10-12). Christians should pray in Jesus’ name and proclaim Him before others, regardless of offense to non-Christians (John 14:13-14, 1 John 2:23,

Acts 4:18-20).

Mason’s View: There is no trinity, therefore there is no doctrine of the deity of Jesus Christ. A mason cannot invoke the name of Jesus when praying, or mention His name in the Lodge. Suggesting that Jesus is the only way to God contradicts the principle of toleration. The name of Jesus has been omitted from many biblical verses that are used in Masonic writings. Jesus is on the same level as other religious leaders.

Human Nature and Sin:

The Bible’s View: All humans are born with a sinful nature, are totally depraved, and need a Savior from sin (Romans 3:23, Romans 5:12, Psalm 51:5, Ephesians 2:1). The Bible denies that humanity, since the Fall, has within itself the capacity for moral perfection (1 John 1:8-10, Romans 1:18-25).

Mason’s View: Through symbols and emblems, Masons teach that man is not sinful, just “rude and imperfect by nature”. Human beings are able to improve their character and behavior in various ways, including acts of charity, moral living, and voluntary performance of civic duty. Humanity possesses the capability of moving from imperfection toward total perfection. Moral and spiritual perfection lies within men and women.

When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing on the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:

1. That salvation can be gained by man’s good works.

2. To accept and promote that Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.

3. Masonry makes Christian men swear that they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.

4. Masonry makes Christians swear that they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the World—Jesus Christ.

5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name of the Lord in vain.

6. Masonry makes Christians falsely swear that the G.A.O.T.U. [Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is present in all other religions.

7. Masonry makes Christians falsely swear to the teaching that true worship can be offered in the Lodge to God without the mediatorship of Jesus.

8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonry’s plan of salvation to get to heaven.

9. By taking the Masonic obligation, he is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.

As you can see, Masonry denies and contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture and numerous issues. Masonry also requires people to engage in activities which the Bible condemns. As a result, a Christian should not be a member of any secret society or organization that has any connection with Free Masonry.

What's on channel 5?

some of it certainly makes sense, i agree, i just disagree with some of the practices/ideas i guess, mostly the "magic" and control parts...

In reality, Freemasonry today is little more than an old boys social club used for business connections and keeping money in the order.

I respect your opinion Ismail, since you failed to try and insult me for once :o) I'm curious to learn more I don't really have an opinion and am interested in those of other - peace and thanks for your contribution I appreciate it, however (there is always a but with me) I'm curious to how their rules are agreeable to you yet contradict or contrast with your belief in Islam...?

Interesting reponse also Bret, I'm curious though after watching this documentary on George Bush and Tony Blair, the Royal Family inclusive, it had me boggled, it did make sense that these parties are merely pawns answering to a higher power, words used in the doco being "puppets for a higher purpose" whats your opinion on Mr Bush and Mr Blairs involvement if any with Free Masonry and thier wanting to apparently control the world?

Eirisa, hi matey,

I know more than a few Freemasons, what they are like and how they go about their business.

Higher power this and that, sure, I'll buy it, but Freemasonry at it's grass roots is where it's really at. And it's not much more than a posh social club.

Well I was making a joke Ismail, I am over it....
NOTE: Smiley face :o) = Joke LoL

Thanks for your clarification I undersatnd your point of view though I again do not agree with it. I understand about both Islam and Masonry contradicting Christianity, but I can't see that the commonality of those contradictions makes them simliar in any way. Thanks for taking the time to respond and share your perspective, I appreciate it.

Peace Eirisa

Bret...thanks I'm trying to get a greater understanding and your response has helped me alot. Social Club, thats what alot of people have said to me as well (I have discussed it outside of this forum). What are they like and how do they go about their business - since you do know a few? I'm not trying to make out their indifferent or estranged, but this documentary did and I would appreciate clarification...Thanks mate! :o)

imagine being a 45 year old Boy Scout and thinking you're better than everyone else who isn't in your clique.

'Corse, that's not all of them, I play chess with two on a regular basis and they are sound.

LoL Thanks Bret :OD I needed a giggle xoxo

Eirisa;

Excellent post and an interesting topic indeed. I have heard and read about freemasons and freemasonic ideals, New World Order, world domination.

I think the social club part is the friendly face of freemasons, but it’s those in high places, in the government that you have to watch out for, presidential advisors, the ones ’in the shadows’, past and previous presidents, they are the ones who have power and can influence decisions. I believe freemasonry has various sects within it, the official one, the one you have described with the oath etc, and then there are the unofficial ones, the close links to satanic ideals and cults.

Builder burgers, Knights Templar and Freemasonic symbols like the ‘’ one eye’’ and the ‘’unfinished pyramid’’ at the back of the dollar bill, you see all kinds of them in films, their symbols tend to come up now and then, you have to know them to notice those symbols, , the rest don’t notice them, unaware ‘blind’ so to speak. Heard of the saying, ‘’in the land of the blind (America) , the one eyed man is king’’ referring to America and its society not aware of the works that go on in those secret society and how their work is integrated into and influencing the very life’s of the people without any notice. I think its no longer a big secret, although what they actually get up to in their secret gatherings is a big secret, but in my opinion its all got to do with world domination, influencing and controlling certain aspects of the world economy, military superiority, domination and control of natural resources, ‘big brother’ (not the show, I’m referring to the surveillance of every individual in a given country, for example in Britain, Tony Blair wants to introduce national ID cards that have chips, (for controlling immigration and also for public safety which is what they base the decision on) but to me its all another system of control and tagging and its already possible to locate an individual’s position if they have a mobile phone, call it a conspiracy theory but that’s my opinion.

They have the potential and means to know, where you are, what you do, when you do it, how you do it. Control and domination in my opinion is their ultimate goal.

Thought provoking response

The conspiracy theories in my head are multiplying

''The conspiracy theories in my head are multiplying’’

The truth is out there!!

I’m not referring to 'Aliens' lol. But come to think of it these so called ‘Aliens’ and ‘Freemasons’ apparently have something in common, one common goal, World Domination.

I don’t believe in Aliens, I think that 'Aliens' are just another deceitful stunt by those Freemasons in ‘high places’ aimed to incorporate distorted thoughts and beliefs into our heads, that are contrary to our own beliefs and views about the world and what our very faith/religion may teach us.

oh and by the way Eirisa ,

''FREEMASONS CONTROL THE WORLD!!
(Thank You Matt Groening) ''

i've seen that episode of The Simpsons, that little sqeeky voices coming from was it microbes? on Mr.Burn's head?, not sure but i definetly remember hearing it from that episode.