I have a question.

I didn't hear about that, but it is stupid very 1945 indeed, thats if its true?

Nah, your not going crazy, you already are crazy joking had to say it lol.

Um..I'll ask my dad when he gets back he never stops watching the news lol :D

Never knew that Bob, they probley knew something if EVERY one called in sick!!

I've heard that too...a lot of people say its not true. I can only wonder...

Oh, please!! If anyone is going to post information suggesting Jewish complicity or conspiracy in the events of 9/11, I suggest they be prepared to document such accusations.

Included in the list of WTC victims murdered by 9/11 terrorists:

http://www.september11victims.com

Daniel D. Bergstein, 38, Teaneck, N.J.*
William Bernstein, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Michelle Herman Goldstein, 31, New York,
Monica Goldstein, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Goldstein, 35, Princeton, N.J.*
Eileen Marsha Greenstein, 52, Morris Plains,
Martin Paul Michelstein, 57, Morristown,
Allan Shwartzstein, 37, Chappaqua, N.Y.*
Craig A. Silverstein, 41, Wyckoff, N.J.*
William R. Steiner, 56, New Hope, Pa.*
Alexander Robbins Steinman, 32, Hoboken,
Steven Weinstein, 50, New York, N.Y.
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, Needham, Massachusetts*
David Silver, 35, New Rochelle, N.Y.*
Alona Avraham, 30, Asdod, Israel.*
Brian Fredric Goldberg, 26, Union, N.J.*
Elaine Myra Greenberg, 56, New York, N.Y.*
Alan D. Feinberg, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Alan D. Kleinberg, 39, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Karen J. Klitzman, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Linda Rosenbaum, 41, Little Falls, N.J.
Brooke David Rosenbaum, 31, Franklin Square, N.Y.*
Sheryl Lynn Rosenbaum, 33, Warren, N.J.*
Lloyd D. Rosenberg, 31, Morganville, N.J.*
Mark Louis Rosenberg, 26, Teaneck, N.J.*
Andrew I. Rosenblum, 45, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Joshua M. Rosenblum, 28, Hoboken, N.J.*
Joshua A. Rosenthal, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Richard David Rosenthal, 50, Fair Lawn,
Michael Craig Rothberg, 39, Greenwich, Conn.*
Donna Marie Rothenberg, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Angela Susan Scheinberg, 46, New York,
Michael Weinberg, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Weinberg, 41, New City, N.Y.*
Jeffrey David Wiener, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Igor Zukelman, 29, New York, N.Y.*

The full list of Jewish victims killed in the WTC on 9/11 would be much longer but many others did not have surnames identifying them as Jews.

"Here is some info about 9/11.."

The point made by the article you cite is the the opposite of what might be suggested by two paragraphs taken out of context.

If you read the article in its entirety, it should be perfectly clear that the author was pointing to the absurdity of the statements contained in those two paragraphs.

Bob, where did you get the information about the Jews working in the twin towers calling in sick on the day of 911??

Steve

"now post the ones who didn't go to work that day, there were over 700 of them"

Since this is YOUR premise, then YOU post whatever it takes to substantiate it.

Getting back to the original topic--

The Gaza Strip, from where the Israeli settlers are undergoing relocation, is among the territories that were captured by Israel in the six-day Arab-Israeli war of 1967. It has been under military occupation since then. As part of the occupation strategy, the Israeli government once encouraged Jewish settlements in these areas. In practice it has not worked well and it has been very costly.

The settlers are naturally disheartened over the forced relocation and some are resisting it. Most Israelis, however, have come to accept the Gaza disengagement as inevitable. Most are tired of the economic and military cost of protecting 8,500 Gaza settlers scattered in small communities amid 1.3 million hostile Palestinians. Most Israelis do not share the settlers' belief in a permanent right to that land, and most support the land-for-peace exchange that has been the basis of Palestinian-Israeli diplomacy for the last decade.

The largest of the occupied territories, the Sinai Peninsula, was already returned to Egypt by Israel as part of a peace settlement. The Israelis withdrew and relocated the occupants of Sinai settlements between 1979-1982.

Now I totally know that the above post will be deleted and also that I'll get a warning and some points, but some things... well, some things just have to be said.

some things just cant be explained. 9/11 is the past...we have come back to what it was like before the attack. all we cna do now is go on with life, and try our best to prevent more attacks like 9/11 and the London bombings.

also..theres stuff going around about the jews and the like because some want a scapegoat that seems better then terrorists. jews have been blamed for many things in the past and have been persecuted just because they are jewish and unnafected. the plague for example. jewish ppl lived the cleanist lives and were therefor unnafteced(barely) by the devasting plague. some saw this as that they were the ones that started it, trying to become the superior ppl and where therefore persecuted for it.

bottom line is ppl just want what they cannot get, so lies are devised to please the ppl.

then we pretty well f'd arnt we?

Thanks to Bret and to Forgotten Memory for the shared wisdom.

Although some of the technical aspects are a bit out of my league, Popular Mechanics magazine had an issue devoted to debunking conspiracy theories that have circulated about 9/11.

http://tinyurl.com/ccd85
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As to the question: “How can we prevent attacks like those if we don't even know how they started and why??”

Good observation. “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it..”.

Too many good-intentioned people have trouble accepting that there are people in this world who are utterly evil. Very often, after some horrifying crime takes place, news clips show the criminal’s neighbors and acquaintances saying they’re stunned because he was like such a nice person. People didn’t want to believe the Holocaust was taking place because it was too difficult to conceive of fellow human beings masterminding such atrocities on a massive scale. A lot of people still want to deny it. Same with the Armenian genocide of 1915. Modern history has numerous examples of similar atrocities involving mass murder of innocent civilians. One of them continues to go largely ignored today in Western Sudan where the victim toll is said to have now reached two million.

I think the failure to recognize evil was one basic reason why, prior to 9/11, the U.S. and other Western nations had no overall policy in place to deal with organized terrorists. There had ALREADY been at least two previous failed attempts by Muslim extremists to blow up the World Trade Center. There were many other similar attempted acts of terrorism before 9/11. But, instead of dealing with this kind of terrorism as an organized movement, our Federal, state and local law enforcement agencies were simply prosecuting each case as an isolated criminal act.

The other reason I believe the U.S. had no effective terrorist policy in place before 9/11 is the fact that Americans are generally very reluctant to give the government broad investigative powers unless they are convinced there is a serious, overt emergency. Before 9/11 it would have been difficult to gather public support for something like the Homeland Security Act.

i didnt think that 4,000 jews worked in the world trade center. my step dad is jewish and lives a normal day like the rest of you..he has nothing against anyone else.. i dont think the wtc had much to do with the jews, only some cowardly terriost physco (sp?)

Interesting topic....i read it without falling asleep.

//Ari\\

Thanks for the info, Lydia, you know things are bad when I'm standing up and being the voice of reason.

I think a big thing some people seem to be missing is that jews and muslims and all that are in reality....people.

Some people are terrorists.
Some people only care about money.
Some people have really big noses.
Some people are named Sean.

Just because certain groups have a loose affiliation doesn't mean that stereotypes are okay. Nada, you can stick to what you want, but not all Jews care about money. Not even all Americans care about money, which is strange to think about. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all Irish people are terrorists. Heck, not even all Chechens are terrorists.

Funny note though:

The Jewish faith does have something to do with 9/11, which I find ironic concerning the original topic and the tangent. The United States was originally hated for siding with Israel during the many conflicts that have cropped up in the middle eastern region. All this jihad against infidel crap was secondary, and it took awhile to sink in. In my opinion (sorry Jews) the creation of Israel in the first place was a bad idea. In fact, taking land away from a group and giving it to another group when the two had been coexisting fine for thousands of years seems like a pretty bad idea no matter how you split it.

Oh and Bret, I for one am not going to delete your post, I liked it a lot.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/chronic27/

For my full on unabridged bear with sore head version.

I think your sympathy is in the right place. Unfortunately, this is part of a complex problem and there is just no solution that is going to please everyone. The evacuation is a disheartening event for the 8500 settlers. However, The Jewish families being relocated from Gaza are being compensated by the Israeli government in amounts ranging from $150,000 to $400,000 per family. 66% of the settlement occupants have already agreed to the compensation deals. Those who refuse to go could lose a third of the money.

If the settlers were allowed to remain, who would protect them? Israel is preparing to withdraw its occupation forces and the land is slated to become part of an independent Palestinian state.

The World Court has previously ruled that the Jewish settlements in Gaza are in violation of international law. (Israel disputes this.)

http://tinyurl.com/de2sh

the neat thing about the internet is you can buy a website and put any kind of information you want on it, and pretty soon not many people know what is truth and what is not.

maybe we can stop hating our pathetic lives too.

Britt - I agree...

Get the israelis out of Gaza...

that's my opinion...Muslims were there first

Muslims were there first... so out the Jews must go

Spoken like a true four year old. What sort of philosophy is that?!

I was sitting there first, move or I'll thump you...

...please.

i heard australia is expecting a terrorist attack, sumwhere lyk sydney. might nt b sydney but thats wat theyre predicting. i think i heard ths in a social studies/philosophy class