USA and Nazi-germany

I don`t know what you Americans think of your own media, but I sure know what I think.

A couple of Norwegian journalists have spent the past years over in the USA. They said, straight out, that they were shocked of all the extreme propaganda, and how blindly many american citizens trusted the media.
Whenever I get to view fox news, and see how they present the war in Iraq and your murderous, selfish president...well...

it reminds me more and more of what I know of Nazi-germany before and during ww2.

Any views on this?

well, you can hardly call it decent propaganda in the us :s, all i read is how unpopular bush is, propably he is a selfish president, but i think that's more out of a buisiness kinda view, than for the benefit of his country, witch is not the same as what hitler and the nazi party wanted, perhaps bush should learn a bit about propaganda from goebbels
and please don't compare the usa ,with germany in the 30's and 40's, america don't even come close ,

Almost everyone i know who is well informed and interested in the world, which is most of my friends...know that anything broadcast on Fox news or any of Rupert Murdochs channels or papers is most likely doctored and so twisted to further the needs of the capitalist and poltitical regime it's not worth listening to.

It's all about fear...go google "The Power Of Nightmares" or watch the excellent documentary "outfoxed"

I wasn`t really comparing you to nazi-germany, but parts of your media...

and you are right, hitler didn`t lie much.

Didn't lie much!?

What about Harrold McMillan's 'little bit of paper' that he returned from Germany with in 1939 that stated there would be no war with Britain?

Ken, sorry mate, aren't you rather missing the point, of course the media does a poor job of covering the war in Iraq, it's not a story it's going on for real. It's not in our leaders interests to have a media actually reporting the facts. People are getting killed everyday.
The media attempt to distract us by their inadequate coverage of the war. What about Iran, Afghanistan, and any number of political hotbeds going on around the world at the moment.

I agree with Sluvious, Bush is far, far more dangerous than Hitler ever was, he already controls a great deal of the world economically, which can quickly be turned into militarially based control.

Sluvious obviously knows who runs and controls the media... and that is why I steer clear of the bull that fed us on an hourly basis...

Hitler didn't lie much about the Jews either... or do you think he had no idea about what was going on, just like your glorious leader Bush eh? Wakey, wakey, Bushes government and the goverment in this country are after controlling the oil, simple as that.
I'm sorry to throw yet another spanner in the works, it didn't matter who you voted for, Bush was going to get in whatever, just like Blah (Blair) on this side of the pond...

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I don`t know what you Americans think of your own media, but I sure know what I think.

A couple of Norwegian journalists have spent the past years over in the USA. They said, straight out, that they were shocked of all the extreme propaganda, and how blindly many american citizens trusted the media.
Whenever I get to view fox news, and see how they present the war in Iraq and your murderous, selfish president...well...

it reminds me more and more of what I know of Nazi-germany before and during ww2.

Any views on this?
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You Americans? You must think that WE Americans are all hardwired the same. lol
Some of us Americans know the predicament we are in.
We realize that the media (especially fox) are all in bed or intimidated by the Bush administration. That is something some of us track and try to explose everyday. (go here: http://www.newshounds.us/ )

Stephen Cobert was right on track when he humiliated them at the AP dinner.
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/010506Colbert_vid.htm

I do realize that many Americans are aware of their situation.

President Bush told a German newspaper his best moment in
more than five years in office was catching a big perch in his own lake.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/bush_fish1_dc;_ylt=AgJuGSAwb
sStRfgaqloLjbcDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhcmljNmVhBHNlYwNtcm5ld3M-

OMG! This guy is a bit embarrassing... The whole lot of Europe is laughing at this. :( *cries*

Propaganda is to inform or persuade.

I have a theory the media is giving everyone the wrong idea.

It focuses on the deaths America has experienced, and focusing only on that is of course going to turn people against the war. Bush may be an embarrassment, but don't take it out on anyone from the U.S.

We can't trust ANY of our informers.

What makes me angry is people laugh upon the soldiers out there, the ones fighting for our country to protect it, and some selfish Americans don't appreciate them putting their life on the line. They just see them die and say "Told you so..."

Well, I rambled.

Er excuse me missy, but no soldier goes into the services with his or indeed her eyes closed. I come from a military family... A big part of being a soldier is that one expects to be shot at, if not killed... so don't even begin to go there hon, if a guy or girl decides they want in the army, tough... no sympathy from me, also, fighting for their country, pah! don't make me laugh. Anyone, american or brit fighting in the gulf right now is not fighting for their country, they are fighting for the business of oil!!!

Quite frankly the problem does not just exsist in the US media, it is a trend with all media worldwide. A well oiled machine used for vested individual interests for propoganda used to brain wash those who are vain. Just read things in the media and take things with a pinch of salt.

Any war carried out now is done for vested interests and oil is part of the reason, they would like to have you beleive otherwise.

^^ hells ya... you fight for your country when your country is attacked... not when you go bombing the $hit outta another one

"fighting for their country, pah! don't make me laugh. Anyone, american or brit fighting in the gulf right now is not fighting for their country, they are fighting for the business of oil!!!"

Unless they truly believe that they are fighting for their country. You see we have been conditioned and disinformed from birth. Most of these soldiers are very young and still believe that Christopher Columbus discovered America, or that the war on drugs is real.
So going to battle with the belief that they are doing it for their country is plausible.
It's like the the soldiers of the Crusades, they really thought they were killing in the name of God. The problem was that, SO did the Muslims.
lol

The way I see it, These men are very brave and loyal.

Mr. Bee, what kind of media or perspective do you get in Hong Kong, in regards to this invasion?

^^^ We are very well informed here as we have the local press, Japanese press, CCN, NBC, FOX, ABC, BBC. Deutche Welle, Voice Of America etc, etc.

Most people here feel that the war in Iraq is a sham, all because of vested interests. Where are the so called weapons of mass destruction - NADA / NIL.

Bush just likes to play his role as a global policeman and enforce "his" rules and shove them down everyone else's throat, but what a shambles he has made of his own economy.

Now they want to take away medication / medicare from the seniors, those who have provided so much and so many years of service to their country are now to be neglected in the autumn of their lives. Sorry but it is pathetic how the USA is run.

I agree strongly with Mr beesley here. And as one of you previously said, we do laugh at the way your country is ruled. And I am very aware of that many Americans are more than smart enough to understand that Bush does you more harm than good. Sadly, that was obviously not enough.