Education and no manners

I was out to eat with my Granny today and she brought up an interesting topic. She was talking about when she was a teenager (shes 64 now) how people weren't very educated but had the best manners. For Example, men getting up when the lady left the room, not putting your elbows on the table, taking your hat off when you eat, you know just common courtesy?

Well now she pointed out that we have better education for children, but they have no manners, and coming from a teen I really agree with that. Trust me I'm not blaming anyone on this site or pointing and fingers and saying you all have no manners, but you know what I mean. Teenagers are just down right rude and so lazy that they never want to help anymore

Honestly, I'd love to have both manners and education, but if thats 100% not an option anymore (which come on I don't see why not) then I would rather go back to being less educated and having more manners. Yes I know thats probably dumb to say, why would I want people to be less educated in todays society, but don't you miss the manners?

I was hanging out with a friend from school and he stood up when I left the table, NO ONE has ever done that for me I was like dang, I like whoever raised him.

What do you guys think though. I would like to have both manners and education but it seems like no one is teaching children proper manners anymore

I believe I have both education and manners. If I am at home just with my family, I let that loose a little, but if I am with others/out/entertaining I believe I have very good manners, aswell as my education. It may just depend on the type of person. Some people have neither education or manners.

It's not education, it's parental teaching.

After the war people were fierce about relaxing everything. In the sixties it was all about free love and drug experimentation. With that the anti-establishment attitude that evolved from that came the lack of manners.

Sexual equality is another aspect. Why would a man stand up out of courteousty if you are now an equal? Would you stand up for a man?

If you were going to put forward an arguement for education versus manners I would say this. With education comes liberalism and with liberalism comes a relaxation of laws and etiquette.

Would you stand up for a man?

absolutley not...so good point Bret I see where your coming from then...

I agree, that most teens don't have a lot of respect for anyone, especially adults. grpwing up I've always been taught to respect my elders and even my friends, so I agree with Bret on that most of it is parental. It's also whats around us, too. WHat we choose to surround ourselves with, because -mostly- what our friends do, we do, or it influences us to act a certain way. I look at how teenagers, and nto even teenagers but everyone, treat people, and honetly I'm appauled. I'm not perfect either, but I dunno.. that's what I've noticed :)

Manners are definitely great...more so than education. I can't divide, but I can open doors for people, help them with their bags, say please, thank you and you're welcome, help set the table, give my seat to someone... those things are much more precious, I think, simply because they have almost completely died out...but not completely... :-)

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