Freedom of Expression

  • Ellie
    18 years ago

    I had been reading in the 'Sadness and Depression' forum about a young lady that had chosen to get an abortion. She had simply asked for advice on how to deal with it, nothing more and nothing less. But what did people go and do? They used their freedom of expression to hurt her, make her probably feel worse than she had.

    I, personally, am pro-life. In my opinion, I think it is morally correct...but I understand that a woman has a choice, and I understand that there are scenarios where a woman may have to have an abortion.

    Now, that is not the point of this post. The point is that people need to learn to look through others' eyes, not just turn blind to what anyone else has to say or what they think. You're not wrong, but then again, you're not right.

    Thank you.

  • Ellie
    18 years ago

    Referring to what I should do in that last paragraph? ;-) I know how to debate properly.

  • Ellie
    18 years ago

    Question marks? Unsure of what you meant? What I meant?

    :-p Just kidding, really.

  • Ellie
    18 years ago

    I feel you on that.

    Lol, it makes sense...slightly. I get what you're trying to say. ;-)

  • Lauren Waszkiewicz
    18 years ago

    i read the same post, and i was so ashamed of my fellow poets.

    i enjoy debating many subject-abortion included, but that was a debate topic! it was an advice thread. and i felt so angry at those who made her feel like crap.

    i too, am against abortion in many situations, but i understand that sometimes it is whats best. And NOBODY even asked why she got the abortion. i got sa mad. no one even gave advice on how to cope.

    Grr. sorry venting.. lol

  • Normal is the Watchword
    18 years ago

    That would be just as bad as not using one at all

  • Lauren Waszkiewicz
    18 years ago

    Shiky using two condoms is the stupidest thing to do!!

    that increases the rick of it ripping so much.

    And who says she wasnt raped?

    And even if they were having sex, the child shouldnt be a considered a bad CONSEQUENCE or PUNISHMENT.. sheesh.

  • Lauren Waszkiewicz
    18 years ago

    Well you should atleast SUGGEST something helpful. someone else might have read your post. not waited for others and tonight use two. !!

    -sorry. .im just in a pishy mood.

  • Lauren Waszkiewicz
    18 years ago

    But you still dont know what happened! she was asking for advice on how to get over it. not people to make her guilty for WHATEVER happened..

  • Lauren Waszkiewicz
    18 years ago

    Whatever. you know. things people say can affect others.

    =[

  • The Queen of Spades
    18 years ago

    Seriously, I don't know what ever happened to the misconstrued meaning of empathy, but empathy does not mean "you're wrong, you should have blah blah blah, its your fault". Everyone who responded to that post acted all high and mighty because they weren't in that situation and pardon my french, but thats bullshit. This girl gathered the courage and balls to ask for help and people shot her down? She was not asking if what she did was right or wrong. If you don't have something nice to say that is relevant to the question than DONT say it. Its pointless. I have a lot of empathy for that girl because one of my closest friends got pregnant and while she wanted to keep it, her mom wanted to get an abortion. She ended up having a miscarriage which was a blessing in disguise, but she learned her lesson the hard way. Now if anyone here is about to say they've never made a mistake or had an error in judgment they are a flat out liar.

  • Gem
    18 years ago

    ^^ I agree completely with Britt.
    A miscarriage is NOT a blessing in any way!!
    I was unfortunate to fall pregnant at 16 with a guy who simply used me for one thing. (And yes, we did use protection for those about to claim how irresponsible i was)
    I was terrified but i could never have an abortion even though i agree with it, i would never have the guts to do it. So i was ready to deal with it best i could.
    But before i worked up the courage to tell my parents, i had a miscarriage (only my dad's girlfriend and Marcus knows about it today) and while it gave me my life back, i was depressed for a long time and blamed myself for ages until i met Marcus.
    I still grieve for what might have been, and i can see why some people may turn around and say, well it's a blessing in disguise, but trust me, until you've been there, it's not.
    A baby is a precious thing and while it was only a foetus at the time, it would have been a child today.
    And i know i'm not the only one one this site who has been through this and i know they'll understand the depression that follows.
    *Gem*

  • Fluffy
    18 years ago

    If she asked for advice, she got it.

    People here will give her an upright answer or try and twist things as much as they can to make it sound alright. But at the end of the day, it's not.

    It's quite simple actually; if she wanted advice, she got freedom of expression. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Ellie
    18 years ago

    Hardly anybody actually paid attention to what this post was about! Almost complete irrelevance. Why bother? Honestly.

    To the person above me...she did not ask for the bigoted views of either side. She asked for help, consolation. If they disagreed with her, they could have easily kept their mouth shut. I love freedom of expression just as much as the next person, but at someone's personal expense? I do tend to hold back. Too many grey areas in the matter.

  • Ellie
    18 years ago

    I suppose I just don't understand people. Oh well, it happens, I guess.

  • TheWorldFellNUWerentThere
    18 years ago

    The reason I am as I am now is because of alot of people. They discriminated me and I felt uncomfortable and I guess that was the way I thought I had to act to get the right attention and not be discriminated.

  • Gem
    18 years ago

    People can be so cruel, and it's all to make themselves feel better about their own mistakes.
    That's what i've seen anyway.
    It's a vicious circle..

  • Lovely Bones
    18 years ago

    "i read the same post, and i was so ashamed of my fellow poets.

    i enjoy debating many subject-abortion included, but that was a debate topic! it was an advice thread. and i felt so angry at those who made her feel like crap.

    i too, am against abortion in many situations, but i understand that sometimes it is whats best. And NOBODY even asked why she got the abortion. i got sa mad. no one even gave advice on how to cope."

    ^I completely agree. I was disgusted at how people reacted towards this girl who clearly needed help and emotional support. I think that abortion is wrong, however what's done is done and in the end a lot of people should have just answered her question, not turn it into a debate.

  • Tasha McCracken
    18 years ago

    I also agree with Britt and Gem. that stuff isn't kool at all no 1 should have to go through that kind of thing and its not a laughing matter.