Reincarnation

Do you believe in reincarnation? Why or why not?

I believe in reincarnation because if each person/animal that has ever lived had it's own unique soul... then life-after-death is going to be pretty smooshed. Think about all the animals that have ever lived! ...gah.

Egads... never thought of it that way. That's sort of a frightening thought in some respects!

to be completely blunt, i think death is final. thats it. you live, you die. you come, you see. thats it.

"..life is but a walking shadow, a poor player who struts and frets his hour upon stage and then is heard from no more.."

i dont think everything happens for a reason or any of that, i cant explain the universe, so i dont try. i dont believe in a god i have to just hope is there, and i dont think that you could become another creature after death. i think all thoughts like that are made by someone who wants to make the public behave, as if threatening them to come back as a cockroach, or go to hell.

so i say meh to all stuff like that. meh.

*indistinct mumblings*

I think I might now be yelled at by all the hard-core Christians out there. Crud.

Infact, I think it would be better altogether to just delete that first part... There we go.

Ahh, I feel better!

yea i deleted a lot of mine too Sarah. hehe i dont want to make anyone TOO mad. but in person there would have been no end to the ranting..

Oh, please... don't delete something just because someone might have a fit. Hopefully this is a forum for rational discussion, not mindless deprecations because you strayed from fundamentalism.

Yeah, same here. I don't really want to spend my life worrying aboot (yes, I did say aboot and no, I am not Canadian) what is going to happen AFTER I've lived my life worrying aboot (yes and no) what is going to happen AFTER I've lived my life worrying aboot (yes and no) what is going to happen AFT-- wait, I'm going in a circle, huh?
*feels stupid*

BTW, Nookie... I have to agree with you that a lot of religion is just another form of control.

Definitely proven itself to be that way throughout history, at least. And consequently it has proven itself extremely prone to abuse.

In a perfect world, FTS... unfortunately, people in this one tend to get totally irrational and upset when someone doesn't see eye-to-eye with them. Open minds are few and far between. Excluding present company, of course.

somewhere in the ramblings i lost 42 points off of my IQ..bravo Sarah..bravo.

It's a talent.
*bow, bow*

EXACTLY..anyone here listen to loveline? either way one night adam said that all religions should shut up and keep their religion inside them and that nobody wants to listen to their pyscho B.S. I agree to an extent, religion should be a personal thing, when you try to influence the people around you, you get someone like me who will bite into you for it.

This was interesting to listen to! Keep going! (It helps that I agree wholeheartedly)

One of my friends and I agreed that religion serves a few main purposes.

1 it provides a sense of hope to the people who are weak minded and need it

2 the thought that you can't actually die is a strong thought, and can be utilized to form an army, hence it can be a weapon

3 it gives the population someone to look up to, an idol that you dont have to be ashamed of in any way

4 what else is there to do on sundays..? lol ok that one's a joke..

See, I always thought that gods were created due to man's internal need for a master. Someone to praise and thank for all the good stuff in life and someone to apologize to/blame when things go wrong. Ultimately it makes us faultless for the things that go on around us.

exactly, people want someone to thank for good times, someone to blame at bad times. and it always helps to think 'gods watching me, ill be alright' pssh..

well id love to stay and chat but im quite tired, and tomorrow is an exciting day of..monday. -.-

That, and it's personally easier to believe in heaven and life-after-death than to face the reality of this time on earth being the only time I actually have. That once the people I love die, I will never see them again. It hurts waaaaay too much.

okay, night night! Sleep tight! Don't let the bed-bugs bight! hahaha. I am soooo witty. Talk to you later.

Drat! This was getting good. Perhaps it will keep going tomorrow.

I must say I agree with you two on a lot you're saying. I can't wait to see some other comments.

And yes, you are right, Sarah... this isn't a perfect world, so there will probably be some free-speech, free-thought destroying individual who comes along to rail against everything written here.

But so be it....

"If we were merely meant to exist once, what is the purpose of existence?"

Of course some devil's advocates (meaning that in a completely non-religious sense of course *wink*) might ask why there needs to be a purpose to existence?

But... nature has cycles and everything that is birthed dies, and in one form or another is birthed again. A sun dies and will ultimately reform from its own scattered gases into a new sun. A bird is eaten, thereby feeding a creature which in its own turn is consumed into the earth, fertilizing a tree which houses new birds that grow to feed upon the worms also fertilized by another's death, so that the bird can be consumed, etc.... All cycles around ultimately.

And if we do exist in a closed universe, then ultimately the universe will fall back into itself and then explode outward again in its own rebirth.

So why don't we have our own cycles and rebirths?

So we've got a fat black cat and a bird as desired returns. I REALLY hope the black cat didn't get fat on the bird. ;)

ive put a lot of thought to that same thing that bob wrote, not now i mean in the past, that is where i reach my deadlock, on one hand you have the scientific by all accounts it doesnt add up view..and the other you have the well we have to be for SOMETHING..besdies killing a planet..

and by the way, bob your personality does remind me of a bird, i almost knew before you said it that you would say bird.

if i were to be reincarnated..i would want to be a llama.. hehe your guess is as good as mine.

once i read this bk long back on facts of reincarnation ,which included true stories of pep who claimed they remember parts of there past lifes the author himself cross examined those families claims n found them true.
in conclusion the writer said in his research he found tat most times its kids of young age who remember this stuff(fresh memories of past lifes) n as they grow they tend 2 forget this things.......

so yes i do blive in reincarnation.

There is actually a lot of documentation similar to that. Obviously some memories have been debunked, but just as often there have been people whose visions/memories have been accurate despite any logical manner by which they could have garnered that knowledge.

One of the notables in that regard is Edgar Cayce. Studying Edgar Cayce is quite fascinating.

Just some thoughts upon which to ponder from some interesting people:

“I look upon death to be as necessary to the constitution as sleep. We shall rise refreshed in the morning."

-- Benjamin Franklin

"Finding myself to exist in the world, I believe I shall, in some shape or other always exist."

-- Benjamin Franklin

"As long as you are not aware of the continual law of Die and Be Again, you are merely a vague guest on a dark Earth."

-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"So as through a glass and darkly, the age long strife I see, Where I fought in many guises, many names, but always me."

-- General George S. Patton

"I have been born more times than anybody except Krishna."

-- Mark Twain

"As we live through thousands of dreams in our present life, so is our present life only one of many thousands of such lives which we enter from the other more real life and then return after death. Our life is but one of the dreams of that more real life, and so it is endlessly, until the very last one, the very real the life of God."

-- Leo Tolstoy

"I adopted the theory of reincarnation when I was 26. Genius is experience. Some think to seem that it is a gift or talent, but it is the fruit of long experience in many lives."

-- Henry Ford

"Souls are poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies of the world."

-- Jesus Christ