To Jacki Ford

You know what, leave Rosey alone. She needed your help, not your criticism. Stop being a b*tch and mind your own business.

Thank you Sierra! ^^

First of all she made it everybody's business by posting here. If she didn't think this would happen, then she has a horribly warped sense of reality. Oh, wait. She does. This is not a place for supporting exploiters and people whom can't discern fantasy from reality. This is who this rosey person is. More likely than not, she's probably not even real. Because why would anybody post something like that in a poetry site, other than to get rise, or emotion out of people. It's probably some jerk playing a big joke.

Read what I posted, and what happened to me. I have every right to feel the way I do because of that. There is no excuse for this. No matter what.

Just because I'm the most vocal about this, doesn't mean I'm the only one who feels this way. I don't see you saying anything to anybody else who has a problem with this. I speak the truth, because I'm real, and I really believe in this. Notice that the people who are speaking out against this, are adults. Because a lot of them have children and the thought of something like this, sickens and disgusts to no end. They want to keep their children safe. Not take advantage of them. Just because the girl is 19, does not make it any better. It is still a form of child molestation no matter what.

Rosey purposely got the daughter drunk, that means she purposely took advantage of her. So if that's the case, than most likely, she was sober and thinking of it. That makes her very demented, and doesn't belong on this site. She belongs in a mental ward.

Here's an idea:

Ask your parents what they might think about this situation, and respond back to me.

Yeah I lie in a fantasy world, bt i'm a bit confused...what does that have to do with anything? sorry being dumb today

Everybody lives in their own little fantasy world. It’s called our dreams, its how we write, this OUR fantasy world.

Some people have sick fantasies like having sexual relationships with family members. That is just a known fact. To act upon this fantasy and not know the difference from that to reality. That’s when something is really mentally wrong.

We all have our dark fantasies, I’m sure not like this though. Yet we know the difference. She obviously can't decipher that on her own.

So really we don't have the medical expertise this woman really needs. We are just merely people that can't give her the RIGHT advice she obviously and desperately needs. This site just isn't where she needs to find the answers she or anybody else with this sort of problem needs to be hanging out.

We have our own problems. Do we really need to attract this type of crowd into this site? No, I really don't think so. Pretty soon we'll have people saying how they raped their daughter. Will we be as supported towards that man as we are being to this woman? Ok so the daughter was 19, yes she should have said no. You're also saying she’s not a child right. Well did any of you think she was scared to say no or feel the backlash from the mother? She is a known alcoholic am I right. We also are only hearing one side to this story. We all know their are 2 sides to every story. We are only hearing what this lady wants us to hear. So she can feel better, so she can feel like she has done nothing wrong.

What if we made every child abuser feel the way we have made this woman feel with the empathy we are giving her? I don't know about you, but I think their are better places for them to hang out. Other than this site. Really would be saying the same thing to a man? No, I doubt it because of Society. A woman is a nurturing, gentle role model. A man is the more of the aggressor type. The men do the hunting and women stay home old who la. Anyways we would all have been telling him what a disgusting person he was for touching his daughter. A lot of us have written about such things. I know I’m not the only one. So we don't hear about the "ABUSER" being a woman, because it's not that common. Change the sex around. We feel hate towards a man but not a woman? I just don't understand you people. Why can't you see past the text she writes to what type of person she really is? Now I'm not being rude here in any way. I've really tried to tell you people that she is a monster like every other abuser we write about. You still have compassion for her. Or to those who have felt the touch unwantingley but still allowed it because your voice disappeared and your body shakes too violently from being scared. It may happen more than once and you still let it happen. The person who is doing the touching is in the wrong no matter how you look it! No matter if it’s a male or female. Our body is our temple do you ever remember hearing that. That women, violated her daughters temple!

That is what I met when I wrote that one line. I just summed it up.

Also is she emailing you young children, because you are young children yet. Because I know I hadn’t gotten any emails from her, saying at least leave me alone. Have any other adults that have posted to her?

You know petifiles play really nasty tricks on children. The more I think about it the more this site or any other site like this is vulnerable. Who has the most poems on this site? The Children.

You guys are just putting yourself deeper and deeper into trouble by even allowing her to contact you. You're fallowing into her trap.

So parents use to tell us not to talk to strangers. Ok were home sitting in front of our computer nobody can hurt us right. WRONG. Those types of people lure young people in. Feed off their sorrow, feed off their sadness. We have obviously shown a lot of young teenagers on this site are vulnerable.

Pretty soon it will be oh you're so kind and thoughtful. I wish more people were like you. I want to take you shopping to get you something nice. Ok so that is a little drastic but this stuff like that Does Happen People!

Also Don't be so trusting when it comes to people even on the internet. You always have to be careful because you never know who is really telling the truth and who isn't. Even if you talk to them for like a year. It’s not like a friend you can sit next to and eat chips with. People running scams are always nice and kind. They always have problems. "I lost my puppy; can you help me find it?" "My car broke down; can I borrow your phone?" On the internet "my daughter hates me email me" so I can get your email address and IP number off of it, tracking it to the location of your house... etc etc...."

Sometimes I may come off strong and very opinionated but believe me their is always a message behind what I write. You may not see it, but it bugs me to no end that you don't. I write what I do so people don't do the same things I have done. I write what I do so you can see both sides. From a parents point of view, from your point of view when you grow older. It all sounds horrible now, but someday it won't. You'll be saying the same things as I am saying. You'll be telling the generation after you the troubles you have encounter and try to help them. I'm just not a person who is going to sit back and read half of this stuff and keep my mouth shut. People like me should speak out. We need to say what you don't want to hear. Who else is going to tell you the truth? It’s not like you'll believe us now anyways. Their is always that one person that sees the light though, and that one person is what I try to aim for.

So every child that has to told me or anybody else to "fuck-off" over this matter. You're just not seeing it from a parents or adults point of view. Maybe, you can't see it yet because you haven’t learned the ins and outs of life yet. Jesus, I’m still learning that myself. Yet, it’s nice to know you have such warm hearts. So forgiving and kind. So much like children. That is in itself is nice to read. Even when it comes to such matters as this woman. You just can't be fooled into believing everything you read or see. You can't play the fool to a broken heart. Sometimes, the anger inside you is worth letting out when it comes to matters like this. I know just reading what she wrote rehashed a lot of stored hatred I have for my father. I realesed that anger on her, instead of "cutting" myself. I use to do that too, I’ll send you pictures of my arms. But really that’s not the point right now. The point I’m trying to make is you guys are still young yet, some young adults who are just learning about life, and seeing the re world. Its not all fun and games, and you can't always be sympathetic to those who are monsters. I just hope some of you finally understand what I’ve been trying to say.

wooow nice jakie , fanx for dat :-) . i see were ya cumin from i had sumone on chat sayin he loved me n to send him my email adress n stuff.im really a nice person my counserla told me i was to nice , n my reaction to stuff mostly is to be symphthetic n stuff , but dat raosey (if real) is T.O.T.A.L.Y. sick . luv lidxxXxx

Jacki-- Thanks for taking the time to share your insight here. I don't always share your viewpoints but on this I am in total agreement with you.

thats was amazing jacki i totally ahgree with you. as a mother that personamkes me sick to my stomach and the kids defending her cause they are all kids majority makes me scared of how teh wordl is becoming. i dont understand how it got to bad to where ppl liek her r symphathized and treated with respect. it makes me fear 4 my sons fture.well newayz hopefully this sick sick person will leave our site soon just knowing shes here and afecting ppl much moe the yng ones is a sad thing. onec again jacki great job.

I agree with most of wot u said Jacki...altho ive really gotta point out here that you kinda sound like a bit of a hypocrite because you said that you would..

'I use to do that too, I’ll send you pictures of my arms'

Erm sending vulnerable people pictures of your cut up arms is not really a great adult 'parent' thing to do to be honest..... maybe I'm just being picky here, i did agree with ur basic point but u jus seemed to contradict urself a tad...because after all if you emailed someone a picture YOU could get their IP and track their house, so how do we know you're not just one of them????! Exactly...you really can't trust anyone on the internet!!

I hope you see the point I'm tryin to make.

As for this woman and all the stuff about reality vs fantasy, i'm not agreeing AT ALL with what she has done, infact it made me really really angry inside because i was raped 3 years ago, but anyway...

although this woman has pretty much done the worst thing a mother could EVER do..she might have something called 'psychosis' where you actually physically CANNOT determine fantasy from reality, and you don't know when you are doing wrong things, its like you have no sense of right and wrong..

again this probably isnt the case and im not making up any excuses for her because i hate the thought of what damage shes done, but i jus thought id put the idea out there! And anyway, even if she did have psychosis and psycotic episodes that bad, she should be in a secure psychiatrict hospital!

xx T

yes sorta, but I also wrote thats not the point here or something to that mannor. I think you were also looking to deep into what I wrote. But in no way was I being a hypocrite about it. Also you are right how do you know 100% i'm not like them. That is what I was trying to get at, you don't now me from the people that live 40 miles away from you. I'm not like these people, I know this. But, honesty you really don't. So yes you are right their.

Also if this women has "psychosis" then why did she post that she KNOWS what she did was wrong, on a moral level and on her own level. Thats why she was seeking advice from us. Hmm that sounds like she knows. So I don't agree with that part.

But you did make some good points IF Rosey hadn't already admitted she was wrong for doing what she did. Either way she shouldn't be seeking our advice she should be seeking medical advice.

Jackie-
That was very interesting for me to read. Being one of the people who seem to strongly disagree with you. I think you're mostly right. But also, you seem to be giving us 'children' not much credit. You may be an adult, but you're only 22, and that's not very far from childhood. I don't feel pity for Rosey because I know what she did ws wrong, but I don't think you should degrate her even further. Possibly giving her more reason to kill herself.
-Guard Girl 09 (Psychotic Suicidal Insomniac and Hamster also)

jaki i jsut fort ya now her poems dey aint had much fort do u fink she like real i mean it cud be dodgey her being here ya know , i hope i dont sound really stupid ,it just made me fink bout stuff , luv lidxxXxx

every time we sympathize with her, it degrates her daughter and makes her more victumized. Thats how I feel about it.

About the children yet, I'm a young adult I also mentioned that I coverd all grounds, and left no space not filled. I also write, I'm still learning life myself.

She also takes this stuff as a joke from the pie post. See once you get older and you understand people better you will understand to question before sympothize.

I'm totally lost...What happened..What did this rosey do???
From what I got she molested a kid? I'm lost..Can someone fill me in...IT sounds like a very interesting discussion.---Ashlee---

Okay I figured out what Rosey Did after much much much research..lmao...
GO JACKI! Rosey so deserves everything...HEy any of you supporting Rosey ever been molested?
LIke Jacki said if Roseys even real...
Molestation is just not right...It messes kids up for a longtime...I'm still in counseling..On behalf of that...
You have no idea until it happens to you...I would cut a guys dick and hands off and cut a chicks hand off! THe worst thing in the world...I respect murders more!

Hey jacki, thanks for that long post before, it really helpful and now i think everyone who reads it will understand why people thought Rosey was in the wrong and did not deserve our help. Thanks

To everyone who had supported me and what I had to say THANK YOU, from the bottom of my heart. I really hope this scum bag has left our site.

Yeah I hope so too..Loser

please everyone pray she has gone

OMG! There are people still trying to befriend this sick deviant.

geez guys, the so called "kid" was 19, thats lyk practically adult, she can think 4 herself

I'm 17 so i guess i am in the young category (or maybe i'm not 17, maybe i'm just saying i am...i know where you live). From a younger perspective i have to say i find what Rosey did as sick as many of the parents who have posted find it. There is a certain point where you have to stop forgiving people for what they have done and make them face the decisions they have made. If in the future i ever did something like that i know i would have to kill myself because i would never forgive myself or be able to live myself, and i'm not saying Rosey should kill herself or anything, i just don't understand how someone could do something like that knowing what she was doing and the consequences she and her daughter face. If it is all a hoax then i think on one hand it is a sick sad thing to do, but on the other hand it has inspired strong emotions in people and really got people thinking about these issues, so i guess that's the only positive thing that has arisen. I support Jacki and all the people who agree to stand up against Rosey's behaviour.

Ye even if she is 19 and can think for herself, she waas DRUNK. The definition of drunk is:

Intoxicated with alcoholic liquor to the point of impairment of physical and mental faculties.
Caused or influenced by intoxication.

If this story is all true (and even if it isn't) Rosey had somehow provided or allowed her daughter to be provided with alchoholic beverages. Therefore Rosey was responsible for the state her daughter ended up in. Meaning Rosey was also responsible for what she has done to her daughter.

I do not understand at all how Rosey could blame someone other than herself for the way everything has turned out. I know (like incognito) I would never ever forgive myself if I commted a sn as bad as this. I would be dead before anyone even found out.

By the way, does anyone knowwhen Rosey last posted and does that mean she's left?!

She(?) appears to have left after almost everyone became so vocal in their opposition to her. Her last post, as far as I can see, was early AM on 12/08. I hope her departure is final and permanent.

thanks Lydia

And YAYAYYAYYAY PARTAAAAY