Guy Fawkes night

For those that don't know; Guy Fawkes was never burned at the stake. He was "hung, drawn and quartered" .. Hung from the neck (not killed), Disembowelled and emasculated (the parts burned before their eyes) then quartered (needs no explanation). We burn the effigy on a bonfire and have fireworks displays to celebrate their foiled attempt to murder a monarch!

i find celebrating the burning of a man odd. but i understand why they do it.

thoughts?

First of all, this isn't me insulting you or anything ... but

It's actually over 400 years since Guy Fawkes attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliment. Guy Fawkes had military and explosives experience, hence why he was chosen to carry out this task by the group of English Roman-Catholics.

Remeber this was a completely different time, and I think they acted in the correct manner (making an example of him).
This wasn't just any old type of treason, he attempted to kill King James I, and destroy Protestant rule.

I would like to add though, Guy Fawkes was not the only member of this plot to be "Hung, Drawn and Quartered" several others were sentenced to the same fate. Guy Fawkes was just the most public.

I think a very fitting end to a dispicable scheme.

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For those that don't know; Guy Fawkes was never burned at the stake. He was "hung, drawn and quartered" .. Hung from the neck (not killed), Disembowelled and emasculated (the parts burned before their eyes) then quartered (needs no explanation). We burn the effigy on a bonfire and have fireworks displays to celebrate their foiled attempt to murder a monarch!

~Pete.

I appricate that but as i said i have a friend who celebrates guy fawkes night and he explained it to me. i also did my own research on it and the little paragraph was an extremely rough summary. but it does make more sense now.

Yep Yep - I celebrate it too .. Hence why I was ellaborating.

We don't celebrate him being executed, we celebrate the fact that he failed in his attempted assassination.

~Pete.

Which is why i understand. i think id like to celebrate the execution of someone who tried to pretty much destroy a country.

I agree with all your saying.

So why set off fireworks at new years? lol

I wonder.... if Fawkes had succeeded, and the success of the scheme had drastically altered the course of British history, causing an overturn in values, religion, political structure.... you'd probably be setting off fireworks to celebrate his success. Do you think?

If the American revolution had been squelched in its uprisings, we in America could possibly be setting off fireworks some time every year, to celebrate that we aren't a land fathered by uncouth rebels. -History is written by the victorious.-

V for Vendetta is a great movie somewhat based on this. and the ending is sooooo sweet

Sibyllene, many do celebrate his life as the goverment in those days were ruling over everything and it was seen as an act of defience on how the goverment will never hold us down

And then there's the other side that was discussed earlier, lol.

Ahhh sibyllene; would I have expected any less of a reply from you?

Firstly I would like to think that we would not be celebrating it if his scheme had succeeded .. I don't think that the actual assassination plot is the main bone of contention for most, it's the fact that a huge amount of the Roman-Catholic aristocracy was not only involved .. but actively supporting this atrocity.

Although my logical side is telling me that regardless of what we now think of as underhanded and vile .. may just be because we've had it drilled into us for over 400 years that this plot -should- be seen as evil. The main question being, would the monarchy have been so financially restricted if the plot had succeeded? If our monarchy back then had been better financially managed in the years after the plot - would it have changed the outcome of current day England?

We will never know, but thanks for making me think about it.

P.s Fawkes (the sneaky bugger) got out of his punishment completely. He jumped off the scaffold where he was to be hung; and broke his neck. ergo not having to suffer the more brutal demise our King had planned for him.

~Pete.

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