Pysch

I am taking a Pysch class.
and today we discussesed the difference between men an women.

what do you think is the biggest pyscological diffrence between men and women?

as a class we came up with a huge list but i want to hear what you guys think.

^^yes...u compare men and women....like men are more tough....they supress your emotions more than women...men NEVER go to the bathroom in groups

Single minded how?

are you saying that they only think of one thing?
cuz i have hurd that men only thing .... SEX.
but the thing is most men are not that way. they are more deep than people (women) give them credit for. I have two brothers and i talk to them deeply and they have soo much on their minds, tho at times they do have a blank mind for hours at a time. but i guess thats what good about being a guy...they can not think and be happy that way where as women always are thinking of something or worrieing.
and right there is another way guys and girls are diffrent.... the ammout that they worrie about things and how they deal with it.

what else do you think is diffrent?

^^that was part of our list in this class

but i dont think it is all natural diffrences. i think they are more nurturing diffrences. by that i mean i dont think men and women are all that diffrent untill they are tought ( by parents, society, family, friends, etc. ) to be a certian way.
if you were to take a male dog and a female dog...they act almost the same. so if humans didnt have this immage of what is the right way for a man or women to act we would be more alike than we already are.

also dont you think the line that seperates men and women is fading. we never used to have metrosexual men....but more and more we see men getting waxed, manicures, pedicures, etc.

what do you think about all of this?

*dont forget to keep listing diffrences.

Biggest psycological difference the way I see it is that woman can't let go, they nag and nag and nag... guys are more easy going, they take life as it comes, they don't really care about stuff as much as woman do.

For me the biggest psychological difference is that women think a lot they keep thinking and thinking
plus they are so emotional than men.

A guy in my psychology class once said that a woman will always ask too many questions. He gave this whole story about a husband being out late doing something and coming home. Kind of something like that and then tellling what happened years later. So I said, "Well why is she staying with a guy like that?" He looked at me when I said that. Point taken. We women will ask too many questions.

Conversing Styles

Men:
Few eye contact
Slumped Over
Head down

Women:
Eye contact
More tactile
Face toward person
Smiles and asks more questions

Women often mistake a man's listening to not listening because she believes that he is not listening! Fights fights :(

I LOVE all your responces.
and they tent to seem true.
but isnt there acceptions for everything?

do you tend to feel that men judge eachother apon first meeting more than women? or the other way around?

do you think men are more jellous?
agressive?

do you think women are more sneaky?
loving?
caring?

are these just sterotypes or do they realy exist for a reason?

there are soo many things that could me a more male reaction or atrabute but then you can look and find hundreds of women that act in that very maner. and the same with ways that you would think a women would act will be found among many men.
why is it then that they are a sterotype of men or women?

I remember when I took that class too, and we studied the same thing. It was pretty funny but the only real differences were ones that are stereotypical differences.

Mani's Pedi's waxing??? Men did you say ? i dont want to sound like a cave dweller (troglodite) but hell the circles i move in (bikers) i'd stand a good chance of getting my ass trashed having that done. Why would a guy do something like that anyway. Man the very next day those pretty nails would be all scrached and chipped and full of grease and oil. I've been riding every day of my life for 26 yrs i own three bikes and no car, and i've never seen any bloke thats done that stuff,but i'll be looking from now on.HAHAHA

^^Exactly...we have the same brain cavity ....physicaly , ya there are a few diffrences...but not many.

^ you "manly" response is very sterotipical.....u see men as having to be tough and rugged...but why is that? would it really be a bad thing to have a mani? pedi? wax? why would your biker friends think any less of you? why would you think any less of someone who has that done?

so why do we attach cerian things to men and women?

why is it that when we see a lil boy fall off a bike and scrape his knew we tell him not to cry...walk it off... etc
but if a lil girl was to fall of we would kiss their boo boo and baby her?

why do most parents find it ok for their son to have girls in his room but if their female child was to have a friend (who happened to be a guy) over and in her room they would freak out?

I guess it has more to do with culture than it has to do with how we are.
Woman and men are the way they are because of how society sees us, from a young age we were told that woman are more vulnrable than men and that they need all the care they could get, they should be kept away from harm, that's how we were raised... girls having all the girly toys and boys having all those tough toys, like guns and action figures, it was unaccepable for boys to play "house" and girls to play "police" and by unacceptable I don't mean that anyone would say anything, but they look funny at the idea, even kids call a boy a sissy if he plays with dolls. Later on in life our dolls become our kids and our fake plates and brooms become real and we do what we do because we were raised to do it like it was our job, and we're ok with it because we think it's how we're "supposed" to be.

Exactly
we have all of these ideals and preconseved notions...but what if your lil boy wants to play with dolls?
will he be gay??
will he be a better dad?

no body know....so they just try to get rid of it all together.....i remember once i saw a lil boy in the park and he was playing with dolls and his father stomped over and riped the doll out of his hands telling him that he is NEVER to play with one again.

but is it realy a bad thing for a boy to play with dolls?

when i was a lil girl i hated dolls...i would rip them apart...burry them....fluch them down the toilet....but my brother loved them and one christmas my grandmother got me a barbie and my brother a remote control car.....she however put the wrong name tag on the boxes...when my bother opened the gifte he loved it and i loved the car ( it was getting hard to hide the doll parts) ....but my grandmother took them from us and gave the car to my brother and the doll to me.

why ?
we were happy with the gifts we had untill she switched them...so why switch them if the kids are happy?

have sterotypes effected our society that much?

I have to say i have noticed that very thing.
lol

what else can u guys come up with??

Good point.

I have to say it really aggravates me when I see or hear people bashing others because "that's not the manly thing to do" or "a proper young lady wouldn't say do or say such a thing". If a girl wants to wear baggy clothes instead of the skin tight clothes ladies wear now, what's wrong with that? If a boy would like to become a ballet dancer, why should you stop him?

If you were to read a couple of pieces of my poetry you would not be able to tell if I was a male or female without looking at my profile. So does this mean I'm any less of a man?

When I become a parent I hope to teach my children to be whoever they want (with sensible limitations, of course; don't want my child to become a murderer), and I'd never take away his/her toys just because it should belong to the opposite sex.

^^ you my dear are the first man to say this

and i personaly applaud you.

i think your way of thinking is correct.
why should it matter what toy they play with? why does it matter how they dress, act (with limits as you said), etc.

i used to be the biggest tom boy ever. i loved to get dirty and have short hair...if u didnt know anybetter you would have taken me for a guy....i acted and talked like one...but now i am all girly...and i think it my have to do with how i surrounded by this society that wants to conform us to one way...or maybe it was a stage....who will ever truely know for sure?

I was raised with boys, so I've played a lot of boyish games, hasn't effected me in no way.. My lil bro's play with dolls, they put them to sleep and all, it's cute. I don't agree with society on how a girl or boy should be raised, we should be equal on how we are treated, punished and all.
I guess the new generation of kids would be different but still there will be people who want their girls to be girlish and their boys to be boyish and I guess you can't make them think otherwise because they have this image in their mind on how people should be, and I guess the media has a lot to do with it.

Ok so, so far we have been talking about Nurture.

and now i want to know what you think makes a person have their sexual prefference.
is it a choise?
were they born that way?
did a bad experience make them change?

personaly i think that your born that way....no matter if it is striaght, gay, or bisexual.

some people just come to terms with and admit it sooner than others whom try to fight it and resist the feelings.

now that i have told you my POV (point of view) i would like to know yours.

^ I agree. i think that it is something that you are born with.

However, going back to the first post, I think that the difference between men and women is no difference at all. We are raised to be who we are. If we are female, we are raised to love barbie dolls and we are taught that it is good to share our feelings. If we are male, we are taught to kick a football and bottle our feelings because tough men don't share their feelings.The bottom line is, the difference between men and women is a social construct.

Like someone up there said ,I think most of what people think are differences are just stereotypes. I believe that on the inside there are really few differences,but because of the pressure society places on both they succumb to fitting the mold.Example "men don't cry" BS
"Men don't worry as much" BS " women are weaker" BS ever had a baby?... I believe also that upbringing and other factors are more influential than gender.

Very good points made

but you seemed to have over looked my other questions about sexual prefference...

you see this isnt just a topic for the discussion of the diffrences between men and women...i am taking a psyc. class and i bring the things we discuss in class here to see what you think.

I don't believe you are born that way. It's a decision you make in your life, whether young or old.

I've noticed a lot of teens these days who claim to be gay/bisexual, when really most of them aren't. It's just a phase, and furthermore it's a decision you've made at some point in your life and is subject to change at any point in time.

Ok, so you're saiding that people choose to be gay and get beatup, verbialy abused, etc.

cuz that stuff happens everyday to gays and lesbians ....not so much bisexuals but it does happen.

if you had a choise about what to be...would you really pick somehting that got you hurt??

About being straight, gay or bisexual, I think people choose it, but for reasons... lets say a girl has a really abusive father and grows up with irrisponsible brothers or feels like she wants to be the boss and make all the descisions, that makes he become a lesbian and it's the same with guys and bisexuals... it's all about feelings, if they feel like people from the same sex understand them more or show more affection, that drives them to loving people from the same sex.
You say how could a person choose to be in a society where they are disliked or treated differently because of their sexuality... I say it is in their subconcious mind and they can't imagine themselves differently... like I said it has something to do with feelings and past experiences so it is their choice but again their subconcious choice.
**This is MY opinion and I mean no offence to gays, lesbians and bisexuals...

I didn't say being gay was a phase. I said for a lot of teens today it is. I know a lot of people who became gay/bisexual and when they started growing up they realized they really weren't, they just wanted to expirement.

Why would they choose to be gay if they new they'd be beaten up for it? The same way a person chooses to do drugs knowing that it'll be the death of them.

I do agree with what the person above has said about turning to the same sex because of sexual abuse and so on. But whether subconsious or not, it's still a persons decision. We all have our free agency.

And you cannot compare the love of a movie to the love of a person. A movie can't love you back. And I also never said it was wrong to love someone of the same sex. I never said I was against it. I just said it was a decision.

Ok ok

this is a place that needs to be free of agrument.

eveyone is free to say how they feel towards each subject with out another fighting that point...sure you can question it but please be careful with your wording.

i can understand all of your oppinions.
and yes in some way our prefferences are an uncouncious decision.....but how do you change something you dont even know your doing?
for it to be a decision doesnt it mean your able to change it? can you change your sexual prefference any more than you can change the way you breath?

I believe as far as sexual orientation goes,the "choice " lies in whether or not one suppresses their natural inclination.I don't think letting boys play with dolls or girls with trucks will alter your sexual preference.Guys grow up to be dads or nurses and girls sometimes grow up to be truck drivers. I don't think anyone has really figured out why we are inclined in a certain direction.

I think that we can change the way we feel about someone or people of the same sex, even if it is subconcious, but it will leave a big unexplained gap in our lives. Sometimes a two people are in love and then suddenly something happens and it changes their emotions toward the person, and it becomes as if they were never lovers. It's the same with being gay or bisexual, they choose it-subconciously- for a reason and as soon as that reason dissapears or has a flaw in it their sexuality changes automatically and that is why we have bisexuals, they were probably staight or gay before they became bisexual and then something changed their mind... I'm saying that if you introduce a gay or lesbian to someone of the opposite sex that you know-for sure- that they would immidiatly "click" they will and the sexuality of that person will change and the same with straight people, if you convince them that the opposite sex is not "their type" they will probably switch sexuality.
Everybody has a certain percentage of attraction to both sexes, it's how we choose our friends... it's just in some people it goes more to one side than annother. My evedence on what I'm saying here is if you ask a guy about how sexy or handsome another guy is they will answer and they may say that they find that person sexy or attractive even if they were straight and the same with girls... that is where jealousy comes from, lets say a girl see's her bf speaking to another girl who is more beautiful than her, she will ask him about her and begin to be jelous. The same if a guy see's let's say his gf or wife with her ex who is more hansome than he is.

"The same way I cannot compare the love of a movie to the love of a person, is the same way, you cannot compare the love of the same sex to the addiction of drugs."

^I suppose you have a point, but to be fair, drugs would be closer than movies on the love scale. You can turn to them when you're hurt, sad, or angry and they'll always make you feel better (or so one thinks). That is until they become old to you and you go looking for your next new high.

Anyhow, I didn't come here to argue, like the host of the topic has said. I merely came here to state my opinion. You seem like a nice person; let's be happy.

Very good
i see we made some progress.
lol

so far we have talked about sexuality and the diff between men and women.....
but today we talked about O.C.D. habbits.
i found that i have a lot.

a small list of the OCDs i have are:
1. counting the number of bites for my food...and making it even so i have one bite of something on the left and then on the right to follow.
2. counting steps as i walk.
3. not shaking hands
4. order (everything is neat and tidy)
5. colors...i arrange things into colors...with shades form the rainbow (in the same order)
6. 'dancing' while i eat
7. nervious habbits such as shaking my leg...playing with my hair... no eye contact
8. food cant touch (ie my stake cant touch the corn)

what are some of yours??

I'm sorry too. :)

1. Checking behind the shower curtain before I use the restroom.
2. Checking the mirrors in any public restroom before using it to make sure it's not a double-sided mirror. (If you put your finger up to it and the reflection of your finger touches your finger, it's a double-sided mirror.)
3. Eating an even number of food. (ie. I'm eating pizza rolls right now. I cooked twelve.)

I can't think of any others at the moment.

1] counting everything...EVERYTHING. bites, steps i take, days/hour/minutes [even seconds] until some event happens [i.e. im seeing my boyfriend in 3 days, 15 hrs, 35 minutes.]

i guess thats pretty much all i do
i used to have a lot more little weird things like that, but counting has kinda consumed my life.

Thanks for being so honest.

if you were going to describe yourself form your firends point of view....what do you think they would say?

*no asking them...that would be cheating*

Odd, not serious most of the time, disappears often, and unpredictable.

That I'm very nice, funny and unpredictible... oh and very moody. Sometimes I'm hard to understand and I'm too optimistic and think most people are nice and good. I'm an 18 year old kid.
*I didn't ask but that's what they tell me I'm like.

Ok
well your guy's friends are nicer than mine.
lol

they would say i am:

majorly OCD
b*tchy
toughy
agressive
assertive
smart
clean
organized
tall
funny
odd
out of this world
paranoied(sp)
dirty minded
speaks before thinking
good friend
punctual
worrier
always prepared
loving
nurting
open to new things
judgemental

there are more but i am going to stop there.
lol

Do you think that the music your parents listened to while you were in the "tummy" or as a baby affected your inteligence?

IE. clasical- makes you smarter
heavy metal- makes you no so smart.

i dk

tell me what you think.

No, but I do think it affects the baby's mood when hearing certain types of music. They may feel happier hearing classical music than heavy metal.

^ I agree
It's not only the music, it's also anything else the baby hears...