A note for suicide repliers [Rant]

Hi all, so you see a suicide post huh? Well, instead of feeding the problem by replying and being overly sympathetic, starve the problem and leave it to the selfish fucker who wrote to start with.

I for one have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who holds a gun to their head then decides to come to a forum and type one handed... idiocy. It is one of three things:

1: A hoax (look at the profile of paige for one)

2: A bare faced lie in the attempt of gaining misdirected affection.

3: The real thing. but even then if you really are commiting suicide I'll just say 'Later' and go about my business.

For the original poster:

I'm not about to have you try and ruin my day because your life is so bad. You want the easy way out? Take it. Don't bitch to us about it to make you better that you've 'impacted' yourself on us either, you haven't.

If you've really had enough then do it right. Just remember that after you've gone someone has to clean your mess up when you're lying prostrate in a pool of blood, piss, vomit and shit. (That's how you'll remembered by the way, not as a girl who couldn't cope, but a body stinking up the bedroom. Not as a boy rejected by life, but some kid who couldn't even die with dignity... a new carpet is going to cost hundreds... the coffin and burial/cremation is going to cost thousands... They didnt die, they bankrupted us.)

Don't slit your wrists, slit your throat, don't take pills (the most obvious cry for help), slit your throat, don't ruin someone else's life by jumping in front of a train, slit your throat, don't shoot yourself in the head... wait, that one's fine.

Just do it properly already and quit bitching to us about it.

Love and hugs,

Bert

Thank You!
I agree so much.

Well, deep down I do care...

You know what I mean by that though. If some one has a problem, air it. Don't hide behind the false threat of suicide.

Said it before and I'll say it again:

Alot of people CAN'T open up to people in real life. Yes, It's most probably a fear of truth/reality but you can't overcome fears quickly. Facing them is the only way to do it.

However, you can't confront someone who isn't ready to open up. You have to slowly get them to open up. If that means using the internet and people on this site as one, what's the harm in it?

You frown on those who keep their problems to themselves but vent them thorugh poetry and you frown on those who ask for help, what is one to do?

When people say they're suicidal, I think it should be taken seriously. If the person is infact seeking attention, then the problems they have invented about themselves will be solved quickly.

Those who's problems run slightly deeper obviously need time to help overcome them, which I think people should respect that.

..Just my thoughts.

-Laura.

Quite the misunderstanding, though I really do appreciate your sentiment.

I'll listen to anyone who wants to talk. I'll also take all the time needed to do so (there are a couple of great young adults here who know that already). Anything it takes to help them out because I know they want it.

I'll berate anyone who types something along the lines of:

This is it, nothing you can do I have a bottle of pills and I've already taken half of them.

Or:

I have a gun, goodbye.

They are nothing statements. There is no point to them whatsoever. It's just a selfish 'fuck you' to a community that has time for them if they have time for themselves.

Bert

Very true.

But I still don't see why people have to slate them as harshly as they do.
I understand that people are willing to help those who want it, however, many people find that the people they want to helpy by don't have the time for them. Those in need of help, then feel isolated.

Granted, they should give other people the oppertunity to help but It still doesn't drown out the fact that the people who mattered to them, didn't have the time.

I can accept that people would be offended by others assuming that they don't want to help, but turning and slating them only emphasises their belief in that.

-Laura.

I'm just pointing out the futility of suicide posts. The aim here is to offend people, get them thinking about why they have posted or whether they should at a later date.

I'd over emphasise my willingness to listen but there are plenty of listeners here already. I do my part, I help a few folk from here via e-mail contact. 2 who self harm and another who is just a cool guy I thought could well from my advice.

I have problems, you have problems, we all have problems. There are ways about getting them resolved without the need for selfishness.

Isolation is a problem but there are ways of coping with this. Unfortunately it involves confidence and courage.

The funny thing is the problems these kids face are nothing to do with me or you and yet we're here anyway. Go figure.

i was beginning to think that paige post was fake. they kept posting it over and over again, but just in case i didnt want to take any chances you know. but yeah i think you may be right.

Could be just as real, which just makes it an even more forgettable event.

I say that because it is even more meaningless than a cry for help.

sent you an email, hero.

This is about burdening already troubled kids with threats of suicide. If you think that is a healthy thing feel free to explain your point of view.

ahut hte fuk up bret! go die alrite! u hav npo idea wut ur tlkin about...n mayb someones feeling down n mayb there thinking bout it mayb there htinking bbuot commiting suicide and they dont hav the guts to tlk to someone face to face so they come on ehre! and if u hav a problem reading suyicidle poetry and suicidle discusion then ge tthe fuk out of the depression section! i hope hell stieks u u bastard rite in the heart...n wen it happens usually ill say to most ppl ill care ill give u simpithy bc usually im a caring person unliek u but im in aapissy mood so wen that happens ot u ill b standing rite next to u laughing my head off

Funny. Paige joined about a week ago, and she said that she's going to suicide. Now her "friend" joined today to say that she was her best friend and Paige "actually" suicided. It's me or... something is wrong.

If she needs help, she could ask for it. Many people would help. But don't start a treat with suicide. Well for me, when you want to suicide it means no one can help anymore.

and by the way Paige, why did you edit your post to blank??

One question, how "THE FUCK" did Paige post something if she is supposed to be dead -_-, and how did she edit it right after I posted thing.

Hmm okay,
Anyways she's dead like you said. So get over it.

three words, L - O - L

No problem, come back later.

Niiiice, she came back =D

Get a new best friend and boyfriend?

Mannie.

If it is true and not yet another sick 'net hoax then it's a real shame that paige killed herself, but blaming us for her ending her own life is totally ludicrous.

All we have now is more fucked up kids who blame themselves for her death. If anything she will be the cause for more.

This is exactly why I posted what I did. We're getting the blame for someone's actions thousands of miles away.

Lets examine the evidence.

Paige joins last week. 'I'm killing myself on Thursday'. Ok, that looks pretty cast iron.

Various posts: Doesn't matter Thursday I end it all.

Thursday comes along: BANG.

What are WE supposed to do about that apart from ignore it or feel worse than we did before, huh? And what gave Paige the right to fuck up other kids' lives just because hers was so shitty. There were plenty of ways to talk and get help. This patently WASN'T one of them.

Think about it Mannie, it's not us you should be mad at, it's Paige.

To everyone who tried to help Paige I feel truly sorry for you, it has got to hurt.

she is dead, how are we supposed to belvie that no offence but seriously c'mon i am not sayign she is lieing but so many people have said that before an lied so no one rusts anyone anymore

wait...she really did kill herself?....if so im very sorry...it makes sense because she said that she had to take a very important phone call..that must have been yours...
well i very sorry if i offended you at all..its just that it seemed a little fishy...people just come on her..you an never know if theyre actually serious or not
well im glad that i at least tried to stop her..but she seemed very set on it
anyway i offer my deepest condolences, its always hard to loose someone

wat the hell is wrong with u guys?! ur fuckin saying like if ur gona kill urself do it and do it rite... god u don't want n e 1 to kill themselve gezz wat the fuck is wrong with u ppl?

sry its just a little sad wat ppl r saying like be original about killing youself ... gezzz

~ShAtTeReD*HeArT~

Actually I'm pointing out how futile and selfish it is.

It's not suicide I am condemning, but the selfish preaching nature of some of the folks here.

if you're suicidal there ways of going about getting help. making if/or demands solves nothing.

it don't help if you comfort them usually cuz most of my friends are suicidal
and if you comfort alittle it's ok but if you do it to much it'll make them feel worse
making the problem worse