Who thinks self harming is selfish?????

being some on who has done it before. you dont think about anything or anyone else it is an problem that you dont think you have until its almost to late

Why do yuo all want to talk about self harm?? It should be obvious by now that it isn't a very liked topic there are people that understand , people that don't , and people who critisize it! So why don't we make everyone happy and just not talk about it?

i personally think it is selfish

i don't think it's selfish.. well it could be if you went and told all your loved ones and then kept doing it, then it would be selfish, but otherwise i don't think its selfish

i think its selfish if you do it for attention. But if its ur way of coping, its not selfish unless u realize u have a problem

selfish

selfish

to bob shank or wateva ur name is!!! wen u sed the answer is in itself......... if u mean it is selfish... jst because it says "self" in it, don't mean its selfish, it has self in it because you do it to yourSELF!!!
luv RaNdOmGaL xxx

Okaaay i am going to ignore that for i will only confuse myself....

But i think it's selfish.

Peaces...

I don't think it's really selfish, if you have a good reason you're doing it, (Not that doing it is good at all,). Heres a couple examples...

SELFISH: My friend Lynette started cutting around Thanksgiving last year. And I honestly thought it was b/c of her problems with her b/f and stuff. Well it turned out that she didn't HAVE a b/f in the first place, which my whole lunch table kind of guessed b/c he went to another school, we never met him, and none of us ever talked to him. Lynette also said she wrote all these poems about cutting and depression and stuff, but it turned out she didn't. The reason this is selfish is b/c all of the real truth didn't come out until AFTER all the teachers and counselors and principals made a big deal out of it thinking her cutting was a serious problem...

ANOTHER EXAMPLE: I have a good friend at church, Kelsey, and I recently found out she cut her way through freshman year of high school. Now in Kelsey's case, I kind of thought it was "genuine" if you will. Her dad died when she was young, and her mom remarried almost right away. Her mom also had another daughter with her new marriage, so Kelsey was kind of the outcast b/c she was from the "old marriage". She also struggles in school, and failed two classes, so I thought just the stress was getting to her. But my friends and I told a man in our church choir who's a police officer, Joe, and he said he already knew b/c she does it to get attention. The attention she WANTS anyway, and that we should ignore it. Well last week at bible camp I saw her sitting outside with a razor cutting her wrists, then covering up the cuts with those rubber silicone bracelets. Then everyone was asking her what was wrong and stuff b/c she was crying all day, and people were comforting her. I think it's being selfish b/c she can get attention other ways.

NOT BEING SELFISH: One of my best friends, Tara, used to cut really badly before we met. After we met she kind of laid off it for awhile. But one day at church, (she sings in the choir with me,) she was itching her arm, and our other friend Rosie and I checked it out. She had all these straight cuts in rows across her arm. We asked her about them and she said that her dog scratched her. Rosie immediately got worried. So did I. Then at the next choir practice Tara gave Rosie a note saying yeah she did cut, that her dog didn't do it. But she didn't want me to know for some reason. Rosie freaked out and we talked to this other lady in our choir, Deb. She said that Tara was going through some hard times, and telling her mom was the best thing to do. So the choir director informed her mother, and put her in some counseling. I think this was okay b/c Tara would cut to ease her stress. Her cousin, whom she was very close to, killed herself last year. This was especially hard on Tara because they were so close. Tara didn't get along well with her parents either, and this guy she secretly liked for a long time asked her out, then began using her and forcing her into situations that she didn't feel comfortable with.

Now I'm not saying I agree with cutting, but I do think its selfish in some cases, but not in another. Some people just don't know how to release their emotions, b/c they don't feel like they can go to an adult, or a friend with their problems. I pray for cutters and people who do self harm everyday...and I hope everyone else does the same.

Lol my thoughts exactly Taylor...

Advice: Don't challenge the thoughts and words of someone clearly wiser in the state of mind and blah blah blah lmao...

Peaces.

"Being some on who has done it before. You dont think about anything or anyone else it is an problem that you dont think you have until its almost to late"

That proves the point that it is selfish! They don't think about anyone else. We try to help them, they tell us they don't need help and all they do is cry and moan about it. I think these screwed up people need to shut up and get some help if they have "issues" Cutting isn't the answer.

Maharani has spoken.

*raises hands high, all addictions are selfish, because they are self gratifying....peace*

Yeppers...and even look at it...

SELF-ISH.

It's about yourself. SELF-ISH...

A word with an ending suffix...

Grammar and definition peoples...

Ow my head hurts....

Peaces.

Exactly - SELF harming. It has SELF in the word. Therefore it is a SELF centered act. They think it doesn't bother anyone else, but what about the people who care deeply for them and want to help them instead of watching them destroy themselves. HUH??!!! I watched my best friend do it for THREE YEARS before she cut too deep one night and DIED!!!!!! She always refused help, though I told her time and time again she needed to stop and talk to someone so she could stop hurting herself. She never listened to me AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!!!!!!! And do you think it didn't bother me? WELL IT DID, DAMMIT! IT DID!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I HATE HER FOR IT!!!

Clearly understandable example Marahani...

And i am sorry for the loss of your friend...

Peaces.

i self harm... and believe me its not selfish! its just that... most people who self harm do it because they feel that they have no one to talk to and are really confused and they feel that self harming is the only thing that they can turn to! i mean! im the type of person that keeps things bottled up inside.. and even though this may sound stupid... cutting makes your troubles go away... just for a little while...

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Well THAT certainly didn't sound foolish Chelsea...

Peaces.

u obviously dnt understand how much pain some ppl go through... ppl come from different backgrounds in life so try and b a little bit more considerate

Come now Chelsea...even you said yourself that it is a temporary solution for a problem that can be solved. Not EASILY, mind you, but it CAN be solved.

Tell me who you are to say that people don't understand? I'd like to know.

And we've all heard the same stuff..."We feel like we have no one to talk to..." "We feel so alone..." "It takes away the pain..."

There is ALWAYS someone to talk to.

You are never alone.

And it doesn't "take the pain away"...if it did then you wouldn't be doing it anymore, now would you?

Peaces.

yer ok... um... dnt u understand the word CONSIDERATE?! you really do need to learn when to shut up because you dont even know me and your judgeing me... you dont know what i've been through in my life... and im not sayin that other ppl dont go through pain because everyone does... and thats life.

it's hard for me to talk about my feelings OK?!

Exactly. We DO understand. We're not stupid, convoluted fools. We know what you're going through, and being a whiny little woe-is-me twat doesn't help anyone but the demons that want to destroy you. And if you people don't want to listen to your friends and family who beg you to stop and try to help you through your problems, then fine. Like Taylor said -- two words: professional help.

Considerate: adj. Thoughtful of the feelings and needs of others.

And look i can use it in a sentence!

I don't care to be considerate to people who preach about problems that can be fixed.

And you know, I really don't feel like shutting up.

And you're right. It's LIFE. Deal with it and kill the self-harm.

Peaces.

well taylor u obviously dnt know me... because boyfriends are the very least of my problems thank you very much sure... loadsa ma past boyfriends have been lil twats but believe me i would never let a boy make me so upset or angry that i'd ever hurt myself over him.

"yer ok... um... dnt u understand the word CONSIDERATE?! you really do need to learn when to shut up because you dont even know me and your judgeing me... you dont know what i've been through in my life... and im not sayin that other ppl dont go through pain because everyone does... and thats life."

This is why I think these wannabe head cases called cutters are stupid, because they all say the same thing, like we don't know what's going on. We are trying to help you guys and all you do is b*tch and moan. And say that we don't know what pain is. Taylor's probably right. You are probably 13 and mad over an ex boyfriend. I am eighteen and have seen more crap than most people ever deserve to go through, but I'm not another one of those cry baby cutter girls who think the world is out to get them and they're the only ones with problems. and if you don't like what I just told you, TOUGH! Cause it's the truth.

Maharani has spoken.

Amen Ari. My thoughts exactly.

Put well Shanks.

sorry but you people really are unbelieveable! i have tried to talk to people! before i ever even thought about turning to cutting.. but no-body listens! and i know what your gonna say to that but i honestly couldnt care what the hell u think about me... like i said, u dont even know me.

Well....what ARE we going to say? I'd like to know.

Yes, we are unbelievable. You'll never meet anyone quite like us. ;) Okay well maybe but they'll tell you the same things we are...

Peaces.

thanks bob shank
but u have no idea what i have been through in my life so how can u write
"but trust me when I tell you that there are at least 100 people on here who have been through far worse than you can even imagine"
???

well you're all just judgeing me! and you really dont understand! honestly! you dont even know me or what i've been through!!

What we're saying is truth. And if people you've talked to before aren't listening, talk louder! Keep trying to get help, because what your doing is not healthy and is only a temporary solution, that leads to a potentially permanent problem.

Well said, Taylor.

I agree. When people don't listen, MAKE THEM. Start screaming at them. Don't fall back and say, "Well I've tried." You're giving up.

Peaces.

Thank you Ismail....thank god we have an Ismail...lmao

Peaces.

Shut UP Angelina you are not rude...

You speak your opinion, now hush. :P

Peaces.

your saying all this to me and yet you do not know ANYTHING about me! you do not know where and how i have been bought up
you dont know anything about me friends/family
you just have no idea
so leave off me ok?!

And maybe we did....because look we all gave 4 responses at the same time ahahaha...

Peaces.

YES! No need to let your demons consume you! If you give up on trying to talk, you're only letting them win! They will destroy you if you don't destroy them first. I don't want to see another person suffer the same fate as Dani did. She was my best friend, and now, my goal in life is to help as many people as I can, because she probably wanted it that way. And Christ help me if you take this cutting obsession too far! If you don't think people care about you, I've made you a liar and so have Shanks, Taylor and Ari. We want to help you defeat this monster. You have to stop hurting yourself. There are other ways to solve your problems. Please, just promise us that you'll try to get help and that you will be unrelenting. Don't let them ignore you! SAVE YOURSELF FROM THIS COLD FATE!!!

and tell me... Y would u lot scare me off?!