Is it luck?

I am watching Mad About You on T.V. and the episode is about luck, hence the name of the topic. Everyone starts believing, with a flip of a coin, that what they need or want will just happen because that's what the coin reads. ''The Coin of Destiny'' is what they call it. They eventually lose the coin.. which actually made me laugh. But that isn't my point right now.

I'm not a very strong believer on luck, and I wanted to know what are your beliefs on this topic. Is there such a thing as luck? Or is it just a lie that everyone keeps in their heads to better understand how the world works? You tell me.

I actually believe in luck...

I believe it all depends on what we do in our lives, it may be stupid to many. But to me it makes quite alot of sense.

I avoid saying the L word (rhymes with truck) because the Green Eyed Lady up there won't turn up when you invoke her name. She's a very fickle God, and frowns upon people who ask for L word (rhymes with duck), often usurping their plans, desires and aspirations just because she can.

I think you made a mistake in not discussing the losing of the coin and what that represents. Think about it.

I do say fortune though and I'll close with this fortune is a fifty fifty thing, you get it or you don't... unless you're playing cards in which the levels of fortune decrease dramatically.

I made a mistake? No.. I asked what others opinion was for this topic. I didn't want to go far into it, because it was more of me seeing what you guys thought, instead of what I think.

And we're just as interested in your opinions on the pretty interesting subject you brought up!

I can't think about luck without thinking about The Lady in the Discworld novels.

Bret, if you would like to know my opinion on this ''pretty interesting subject'' then I will give it.

In the show, yes, it only showed the good side of luck, or what they think is luck, only because it is just that.. A show. The down falls of thinking you have luck.. is if you get too into it, and find yourself messing around with your whole life.

It's all in your head, my friends.

Losing the coin is as unlucky as it gets, which, excusing the pun, is the flip side of the story. Without this part the rest of the show has no merit. Something to take on board.

Ok.. lmao.

My friend Dave made a machine the could flip a coin over and make it land on the same side almost every time. He is also an expert card player and rather into probability [which is also called a word that rhymes with Stuck].

That word that rhymes with shmuck is the name we give to the variables we cannot fathom enough to predict or understand. I usually do not like getting so analytical, but it's true. Someone drops a ceramic cup and it hits the ground and doesn't break and we call it that word that rhymes with pluck. But is it really? If we had the mathmatical knowledge we could predict the outcome of the cup[ and therefor everything, including the fate of anyone on the planet] as it fell and say for certain whether it would break or not, thusly eliminating the belief in that word that jams with muck.

God is therefor a mathematician of some skill, and opportunity.

I agreed with you up until you stated that God is a mathematician of some skill and opportunity. I am not a strong believer in God.. because I don't truly think one man.. can run a whole universe.. and be in charge of ''fate'' or ''luck'' at his own disposal.

“I agreed with you up until you stated that God is a mathematician of some skill and opportunity. I am not a strong believer in God.. because I don't truly think one man.. can run a whole universe.. and be in charge of ''fate'' or ''luck'' at his own disposal”

I really do not believe that Kevin has ever been an atheist. I believe that he believes the laws of nature are constant with infinite variables. When we control the variable, the coin will land on the same side every time. A man cannot change a single law of nature. Only the variable is theorized to have evolved organic matter from inorganic matter to create life. Is a variable a cause ,or an effect?

It seems to me if I were so bold as to reduce Divinity to the laws of nature I would conclude that the constant laws of nature somehow control the variables by the process of natural selection

When God became man it is interesting to note that three wise men that I am sure were well versed in the ancient science of magic, astrology, and alchemy followed a star that would lead them to an infant that would change the world.

Although luck is a superstition closely associated with ancient sciences I don’t believe it was luck that led them to this divine member of the Holy Trinity
God can be perceived as the personification of the law, but is as unchanging as the laws of nature
I do not believe that the universe was created by a man, but by God

Well. I can respect that.. and Kevin.

“God is therefore a mathematician of some skill, and opportunity”

If we personify the Creator of the universe as a skillful mathematician we would have to respect the laws that make our existence possible

I believe we would be forced to perceive the failures of opportunity as systematically becoming extinct, which would not limit our evolution to good or bad fortune

In other words we are not a product of accidental fortune

Opportunity is only a favorable variable for progress

I prefer to perceive creation as infinite, and not confined to limits, as in time and space there are none

In other words Micheal, you took 2+2 and came up with 5.

Well that is still a lucky guess even if you don't think I am an accidentally evolved ape

Try taking nothing, and coming up with something

Oo. Well. It's possible to have nothing and get something......

I am not sure we are talking about mathematics anymore

I don't like staying on the same subject. =).

Some people add 2+2 and then they are out to lunch lol

Lol...