Comments : Countess Elizabeth Báthory

  • 19 years ago

    by Jacki

    Ok, Ok so my poems are a bit on the darker side lately. BUT this poem is 100% true. I came across the other day, and sence i've been writing about poor helpless women being murderd by men i thought i would write a poem by the blood countess. Here is story if you want to read up on what i wrote.
    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/bathory/countess_1.html

  • 19 years ago

    by Krystin

    (wow james... wordy comment... like it)

    ne wayz... i liked the poem Jacki, very cool.. very dark... just what i was looking for.. i give it a 5! good work!

  • 19 years ago

    by Bryce Ellner

    Wow..for some reason that reminds me of a legend...but I cant remember what it was? O.o;; Maybe it is Elizabeth Bathory, I don't know. Anyway, I like it, very dark.

    --Bryce~

  • 19 years ago

    by Timothy

    Wow, James Daren Starr, you are long-winded (nimble-fingered?) boy!
    Oh yeah, this is Jacki's comment section! Most of what you wrote about Elizabeth Bathory seemed accurate, except that I have never read anywhere that she was a lesbian. Remember: Not ALL serial killers involve sex in their crimes. Think of the SON OF SAM.

  • 19 years ago

    by Jacki

    Timothy,
    THis story is under crime libary Sexual Preditars here is a part of the story why I used the lesbian part, and why she had a guilty pleasure. I have the weblink under the very fist comment so you can read the full story of her.

    One of the most striking, and troubling, things about this real-life horror story is its female-on-female character. All the murder victims were female. Most of the guilty, whether as procurers or torturers, were also women. That women were the procurers may be explained on practical grounds: in a sex-segregated world: women are more likely to mingle freely with each other and trust an offer of employment or hospitality from another woman.

    Men did play parts in this tragedy. One torturer, a dwarf nicknamed Ficzkó, was male. Other men served as means to humiliate women (who were forced to parade nude in their presence) or to degrade them after death (soldiers who had no idea what they were eating were fed flesh of murdered females).

    We cannot know what the feelings were of the men who watched peasant women forced to strip: they may have enjoyed this sadistic show but, then again, they may have been appalled but helpless to do anything about it. If the latter, they must be considered Báthory's victims as well. The men who were tricked into cannibalism were unequivocally victims. It is noteworthy, however, that she had no male murder victims.

    How did Báthory get away with waging a femicide for over three decades? The deaths of enough women to populate a village could not have been a complete secret--and, indeed, it was not. What's more, many women and girls survived with faces and palms displaying the evidence of her cruelty.

    To understand why Báthory got away with her crimes for as long as she did, we need to understand the position of peasants in her country at the time as well as the privileges accorded high birth. There had been a Hungarian peasant uprising in 1524, a generation before the Countess's birth. It had been crushed and the rebels subjected to truly diabolical punishments. Their leader was "roasted alive on an iron throne and his followers forced to eat his flesh before they themselves were broken on the wheel and hanged." (McNally)

  • 19 years ago

    by TrUtH hUrTs

    kewl!!

  • 19 years ago

    by Madison

    WOW I LOVED THE POEM! and indeed i checked out the story, it was really interesting! i liked it alot, and i thought it was cool how you coiuld write a poem about it! way to go!!!

  • 19 years ago

    by Jacki

    Thank You :)