Dee = Bob?

There has been alot of speculation as to whether or not Dee and Bob is the same person.

Though there is no solid proof, such as an eye witness or admission there is alot of circumstantial evidence.

Now let's get this all out in the open and let everyone decide for themselves.

To start with I will be the first to tell you that even though Bob seemed like an ass most of the time he is one that I often went to for sound advice because he was always willing to give it to me straight and I will always respect that of him. I do not dislike Bob, but there are alot of things that I have disagreed with.

With that said here goes.... and Bob's version is unedited so be warned.

The IP address on Dee showed that three other accounts were tied to it. All three previous accounts were deleted so we were not able to get the names on the accounts since the individual deleted the accounts themselves. Also, the computer ID's for all four where the same.

Here is the IP address:

IP Information - 76.124.253.152

Host name c-76-124-253-152.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
Country United States
Country Code US
Region Pennsylvania
City Levittown
Postal Code 19057
Latitude 40.1442
Longitude -74.8483
Area Code 215
DMA Code 504

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Everyone knows how Dee talked and acted so that is up to you.

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Here is the unedited communication between Bob and myself on facebook:

Bob Shank December 14 at 3:26am Report
you and all the mods are lying motherfuckers, why would you tell everyone on the site I was dee or whoever the fuck you said, I've been on that site twice since leaving and never as a member. You stated according to the IP, I don't even have the same computer I had when I was a member on P and q. I am not dee nor have I ever been dee, and I swear on my unborn sons life to that. The nerve of you bitches lying on me, I guess it helps you look good tarnishing my reputation. Don't ever contact me again, until you can tell the truth

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Sherry Lynn Hull December 14 at 6:25am
Before I do this I want your permission....

May I post public all the information we have as far as the IP address and previous account history information. I am asking because you know that I always try to protect confidential information.

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Bob Shank December 14 at 7:02am Report
only if myou post this entire communication as well unedited, and it really doesn't matter what you post, because it's all bullshit and you know it. when I was on p and q I had dsl, I have had a wireless laptop the past two months, so please explain how in the hell the IP's match, bottom line is, you and britt didn't like me from the drive because I was against both of you being mods, and you've done nothing but manipulate ann marie, who can easily be manipulated as per Ken, but whatever, I'm actully glad I'm not back there amongst all the deceit and bullshit games.....now you want to post something, post all three of these correspondes with it, I'm tired of getting stabbed in the back without being allowed to defend myself.....
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Now with all that said I will leave everyone to decide for themselves if Dee and Bob are the same people.

LOL Hellon... we love you!

LOL @ Hellon's post ?! WEll Merry Chrismtas to you as well (:.

MMMM why don't we just leave things as they are , as long as no one is breaking any rule?

I agree... just wanted everyone to decide for themselves.

I will say that as far as Ann Marie goes.. she is not manipulated. Ann is a very sweet person and I am proud to call her my sister in God and my friend!

Not to change the subject, but I wonder why it is when some one has a kindred spirit bestowed upon them then everyone else thinks that they are easy to manipulate?

Sorry, just a question that passed through my mind.

A' Sher..it's all because of Newton's apple tree.

I will say that as far as Ann Marie goes.. she is not manipulated. Ann is a very sweet person and I am proud to call her my sister in God and my friend!

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You'd be surprised if you knew how some can manipulate whole crowds into thinking someone is a bad person. And they, themselves ar always holier than thou;)

This post by the bikerman with the overnight tan is rather shocking, but also makes clear how he feels towards the site and the mods. Why should we waste another word on someone who uses such foul language and has such low esteem for us?

MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL !!!!

I normally keep my mouth shut but I find this statement to be an insult to African Americans and wonder if it was necessary to make your point.

by the bikerman with the overnight tan is rather shocking

It was a JOKE Silvia, seeing as he made his virtual face black, so to say, to trick us all. My God, don't you ever make a joke???? *shakes head*

I refuse to argue with you or anyone else, period. If it was meant to be a joke, it was a feeble attempt at humor, it is offensive to me. Yes I make jokes but not at the expense of others. This is the last that I will have to say on the matter.

I applaud the fact that this post was done. It removes the secrecy of the issue and gives people facts, not rumors. I can also say that I do not know most of the people mentioned so I have no bias toward anyone.

"you and all the mods are lying motherfuckers"
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That comment really upsets me. I've gotten to know some of the mods on this site and I can say that they are some of the nicest and honest people I've met. Britt, Jane, Sibs.. all three are honest and sincere people.. I haven't chatted much with Sherry, but from what I can see, she appears to be a very nice thoughtful woman as well..

Thanks for showing all this.. I'm really glad I chose to be where I am now.

I didn't think Bob was Dee and if he is not I 100% understand his anger and dislike of the crap going on around here. It's usually why I don't bother with much outside my group any longer. It would be nice if this place started feeling less like high school and more like a poetry site.

Yes those I have seen Britt and they are a good start, now if people would just focus on those things lol

Look, a fly!

I saw it first AJ, that's my fly thank you very much

Fine... :-( haha.

If it will help you focus you may have him :)

How do you know it's a him, not a her? haha.

Flies have more in common with men I think lol So I go with the masculine, maybe I am sexist

Hey, we're having some fun.. thats also something this site could have more of.

"It cracks me up how much we've lost focus while talking about refocusing. LOL"

That was my point lol Figured i would take AJ's lead and wander off the path lol

"No one would swear on that, if they were lying."

Well there are people who would, but I don't believe Bob to be one of those people, no matter how any of us feel about him.

I believe him as well, If he says it isn't him, then it's not.

Anyone who knows Bob knows that not only is he blunt but he is HONEST. Perhaps there is a glitch in your computer system......Maybe Dee is someone else who left and came back.

So as far as the someone will believe him. Yes I do. He wouldn't lie to me. I talk to him, I have for years. And honestly if he would have told me he was Dee and asked me to keep my mouth shut I would have.

I didn't get to read any of these posts by "Dee" because the account was deleted before I read a word from him.

And I agree Sylvia I was also offended by that statement. We can all surely be adults here Ingrid and share our opinions without the name calling can't we? Kind of makes me want to call names but I won't stoop....let me just say it is aweful hypocritical.

The facts point to it being him but I also don't think he would lie after swearing on his unborn son's life...
I'm unsure about what side I'm on at this point, but in all honesty, it doesn't matter to me and now that the issue is out in the open, I feel we should make up our minds individually and move on.
This thing is making me uncomfortable, especially all the laughing about it. Bob is not a joke to many people here, so let's try to respect that.

I was indeed making a joke to ease the tension, Britt.

EVERYONE, here is the deal. DROP THE DAMN SUBJECT!

Dee is gone now, who really cares if it was Bob or not? For all we know it was just another damn fool drying to be an ass. There is evidence against Bob, but seriously, he isn't here anymore either.

So drop the damn subject and move on.

I question if Dee was Robert many times, Just like I questioned if Illum was PearlPoet.

In honest truth I'd rather not know, that may seem juvinile but the fact of the matter is that Robert is someone I care about and if it isn't him I'd be angry with myself for even thinking that it would be, and if it is him I'd be disappointed with him for my own reasons. After seeing the IP address I thought wow it must be him but in seeing his response & how upset he was I'm not so sure what to think. My only hope is that if Robert returned he'd return as himself & come back to RTVW.

So now INGRID tells a joke, and everybody wanna teach her how to be an ADULT ?

No I am not playing it favorites or nothing, and I don't care if anyone believes me or not.

We all know she wasn't like trying to be revolutionist, or bringing up RACISM.. And I am sure if this was not referring to BOB..no one would have moaned one bit, or felt like bla bla..

EDITED : AND she ain't "stupid" to offend people and members in PUBLIC, no body wants to have haters and enemies that way.

You guys bring tension up whenever you want. And accept jokes whenever you need.

" DEE" joined and came forward speaking his mind..and a huge number of people over this website believed (still do) that DEE is BOB, regarding the evidence that they do have. He might not be him for other people. But why keep on making this JOKE last longer ?

whether DEe is bob or not, he did not break any rule . And now he is gone, proofs been given because people asked, and that perhaps offended some people .

But stop taking it on others.
This is so just useless..HE IS GONE...

G-O-N-E

JEEE...OOHHH... NNNN... EEIII

I joke around all the time, Nana. And I am no racist either. Some people just need to...get a little more busy with real life* cough*, I feel , and try to see the funny side of things, like I do.

Life is a party if you want to, yay oh yay!!!

Do you want to dance with me, sunshine?

*hugs*

Lol I would dance if this BS wasn't playing on my nerves.
We are not allowed to be happy over here..and now wait..it won't stop.

If this stops tonight I will buy everyone a limo ! (YA I feel safe, cause I'm sure it WONT stop).

There will always be people trying to bring the happy ones down Nana, we should not let them stop us, but simply ignore them and be who we are..we are the lucky ones you know :p

Oh, I so love you girlie...in the next life I will come back as a guy and marry you :p

Going to sleep now, make love not war people..and at least TRY TO LAUGH A LITTLE !!!

Lol oh I wont be surprised..:P hahahhaah...

LOVE you more Lady. (:

Ha ha, well we can be best friends in this life, can't we?

Really going now, I so need my sleep!

''The IP address on Dee showed that three other accounts were tied to it. All three previous accounts were deleted so we were not able to get the names on the accounts since the individual deleted the accounts themselves. Also, the computer ID's for all four where the same. ''

I was told before (by Britt I think) that once an account is deleted all info disappears from the system then how could you link it to three previous accounts?

Not to mention that Robert didn't have three deleted accounts, he had four, a fact that maybe not a lot knew, but there was one that he made for an April's fools in our club three years ago to play us and then deleted it, I guess, not to mention his previous deleted accounts when the sunny drama happened? but I'm not sure about that since I wasn't even a member then, I'm rather sure his posts weren't there in old threads though when I was reading them years ago.

as for the jokes about skin colors, strange, I recall someone being very upset about a blond joke before.

No personal attacks at all, Britt, where was the attack?

anyway, back to subject, so the IP's and so do not disappear then, Britt? ok, if it's Robert, how do you explain the missing accounts not showing but only three?

One thing that is been ignored is where Bob lives

It comes up as Levittown Pennsylvania, now there must be plenty of members here that know where Bob lives, some must be in communication with him some must know where he lives...

Nor? somebody from his old club..?

Petty crap from me? I'm not the one who asked people to get a life, Britt, that's why I replied, because I didn't find the comment that much of a joke either so I was considered that I need to get a life? just like I wasn't with comments about blonds before. you can't allow one person to get away with things and warn others for reacting to it. what I meant to say is that people find it offensive when jokes are about color or race and that exact person had found it so before, that's all.

I have to say I'm clueless when it comes to IP's and of the like so I don't really get that multiple IP thing and why was it just that that exact IP was connected to only the three ''known'' accounts but nothing else. anyway, as I said, to me it's not Robert and that's were it ends. I just wanted to let it be known that the proof given isn't at all a ''proof'' because it isn't accurate.

and yes, I don't think he would lie either, not to mention swear.

Nicko, Bob lives in Pennsylvania, it's no secret. anyone who knew him knew that, club or not. however, the postal code is wrong and that's what I am saying, this whole ''proof'' isn't accurate, looks made up to me. sorry, I'm just saying what I think.

From Bob:

''by the way I had a very interesting conversation with a head mod on the phone, she called me on my phone which is area code 267, not 215..''

Postal codes are often wrong with boundaries often blurred

What town does Bob live in?