Sextuplate accounts

No Hellon it is a man and was another person. Michael still remembers him.

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Michael or leahciM was born before the dinosaurs so...of course he would remember but...he should also remember the female neema???

I think once I was flirting with neema and someone hinted they were disgusted

http://www.poems-and-quotes.com/discussion/topic.html?topic_id=138813

What do you think about Anon and Unknown Poet

IMO they have made a name for themselves and I want to do a collab

Sorry...I don't understand what you mean either but....why has Larry got a bucket as his avatar???

I am still viewing stones and a rainbow on Larry's avatar

Press refresh....it's a bucket...I think LOL!!!

My two cents:

I believe that rule is fine as it is. Having two accounts is more than enough. One for ourselves and the other to represent the club, or however the member wants to use that other account ( always letting people know who they are). I feel the potential use of having more accounts will give the Mods more work. Why increase unnecessary work load? Edit: ( I do like seen the mods more often on the boards)

Also there was an occasion when I got upset because I found out that "someone" (I won't name that person) was under another account, but the reason why I was upset was because at first I had thought that that "someone" was a plagiarizer.

I don't know but I see this rule as a prevention thing. I like the rule as it is.

Pretty much, this is how I see it

If members have multiple accounts and they start posting their old poems without letting people know who they are... Then people like me who go and read poems just like that... Run the risk of thinking that tht someone is a plagiarizer.

They could report them. Then the mods would have to go and do a background check... Adding more work load to them.

also there are people who don't let others know who they are. They can create identities of their own. Mess with people's heads, and due to those people, we can go on and start doubting each other. Instances just like what has happened to Ddavidd can increase, people can start accusing others of being others. It may sound silly but I feel it may be possible.

My train of thought is, why remove a rule that is actually useful? Edit ( that I feel is actually useful)

I feel that letting people have more accounts will add more work to the Mods rather than diminish it. Also if people have more accounts, I fear that it may work more against us than to help us. Edit ( the following is what I feel could happen in case of having more accounts )

1. Increases the risk of people nominating their own poems. ( sure it will take them time to gain the nominating power ( not much time actually, they could do it in at least two days, I won't name how to do it easily though).

2. Increases the risk of adding more poems into the weekly contests thus adding more work to the judges.

3. Increases the work load of the Mods as they would have to check IP addresses and also a potential risk of having more poems reported as pliagiarize...

4. People could actually become paranoid and start doubting each other. I too like the security blanket that I feel covers me with having that rule.

Having tht rule doesn't hurt. I see it more as a prevention rule.

Instances just like what has happened to Ddavidd can increase, people can start accusing others of being others

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I have not accused ddavidd of being anyone...I asked NIN if he was ddavidd and I've asked ddavidd if he's Hazel...questions, not accusations and...now that he's admitted to having various other accounts on here...5 at the one time at one point I think he said..I do believe that I have a right to be a tad suspicious...

Those things already can and do happen regardless of the multiple accounts rule. It's not like lifting the multiple accounts rule will lift the rules that you can't be in more than one club, or nominate your own poems, or vote for your own poems, etc. Those rules would remain in place. Are you guys suggesting that the people who obey the no more than 2 accounts rule would not obey the other rules already set in place if the 2 accounts rule was abolished? That doesn't make sense to me. If people would nominate their own poems even though it's against the rules, but not have a third account because it's against the rules... I'd say their morality makes zero sense. The people with 2 or less accounts will likely not change. The people with 3+ accounts will also likely not change, unless Hellon feels like stirring up trouble. Or Ddavidd.
We could also easily add a rule that you can't post the same poem to two accounts. Might be smart to add that rule regardless!

"They could report them. Then the mods would have to go and do a background check... Adding more work load to them."

^While I appreciate that you are concerned about our work load, it's the same procedure regardless. People are reported and it takes a couple minutes for us to check it out. It's not much work, especially if we are adding another mod within a month. All we have to do is look up the member ID of the member in question and then all accounts tied to that member will pop up.

I do apologize Hellon, I should have not use that word "accusing". But what I meant is that there is a risk that more people will doubt each other.

Sylvershoes:

Sorry, I'm via my phone, I'm a slow typer.

"Those things already can and do happen regardless of the multiple accounts rule."

^ that is true, but I guess, I like to consider different possibilities. I guess I fear that by allowing more accounts, it may shift the attention of the Mods into other activities.

What happens if someone has a friend to open an account and give them the password ?

Hellon Larry's new avatar reminds me of a song Dylan wrote about thirty something years ago called buckets of rain lol

http://youtu.be/BwrpYDNYSME

People are reported and it takes a couple minutes for us to check it out

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A couple of minutes to say...no..the ip address does not correspond to any others so...this member is as clean as a whistle...yeah, I reckon that's as long as it would take but...as I've been trying to say in various threads over the past few months...you can change your ip to another country without actually going there...if you have more than one device on hand you can sign in as two different people concurrently (discovered this today) or more....so....IMO...at the moment the mods are not really thoroughly investigating the background of certain members and...if the ruling for multiple accounts goes ahead then...it will only get worse I feel.

In regards the club thing: I think there is a big difference between say, me leaving FOP and applying to another club to me starting another account(s) where I can apply for clubs and the manager likely doesn't know who I am. The mod background check is a good idea and you'd be surprised how often interesting things have come up with applying club members when I've checked. Although no club is ever really private of course.

Regarding predators/wrong-doers and the difficulty there. If somebody makes 6,7,8 or whatever accounts, at the moment we have the legislation (legislation? power? precident? Not sure of the best word) to suspend those accounts that may end up causing mischief. True people who are going to be malicious will be malicious but at least doing it with 1 or 2 accounts lessens the potential damage and allows us to keep better track on them (and let them know we are tracking them). What if say a person has 10 accounts and they apply for 2 or 3 clubs at once, do we suspend all 10 accounts? If they pm a young member with different accounts we won't know about it until a member complains about pm's which might not happen, and even if it does, do we automatically suspend all 10 accounts? Or if we see people talking to each others accounts on the boards, do we have to say something to other members or is that a breach of the posters own privacy and right to have alter-egos etc. There are a lot of grey areas like these but at least the 2 accounts thing is black and white. A case of harassment etc is never really straightforward and we don't as a policy rush to suspend accounts so I do honestly think that these difficulties are multiplied with multiple accounts.

I should have asked earlier, but why do people want 3+ accounts or what are the advantages? As it stands we have a second account rule in place if you want to post poems 'anonymously' or as an alter-ego. I imagine most of the trustworthy members don't feel a burning desire to have 3 or more accounts or do they?

And...regarding my post just above yours...????

I agree basically with Everlasting and disagree with Abby. I think the mods would totally lose the control of this site and chaos would take over. Lets not forget our history and the achievements even those that were achieved in wrong or undemocratic way.
I elaborate later , not feeling well.

Ha, I can't help but find the whole fear of 'chaos' and 'Pandora's box' is so overblown. And the paranoia about a rise in paranoia... classic.

If you really think that the multiple account rule is being read and followed by all the 'otherwise dangerous' people, thereby preventing disaster descending on this humble little site, so be it. I'm glad this rule helps make people feel more secure when they want to trust strangers on the internet. As for me, I don't mind accepting that these types of illusions, risks and corruption are natural, interesting, and totally unpreventable aspects of online and offline life, and that they can usually be managed here if things really get out of line. But I don't want to make more fuss about this.

Are we agreed that multiple accounts are allowed as long as they are publicly stated or non-interactive?

Edit: To Colm, my opinions:
- If a member is a predator etc, you would certainly delete all 10 of their accounts. I still don't get how your workload will drastically increase when members report abusive PMs etc on one account when you can just find the IP and delete any other accounts with it.
- If a member is talking to their alter egos on the boards, sit back and be entertained (unless they are using all their aliases to gang up on other members or something similarly upsetting). A private warning can be sent, followed by public exposure and suspension if the behaviour continues. It won't happen often.
- And currently, the rules state that your secondary account is NOT allowed to be anonymous. That's the reason I don't have another account - no bloody point. How can I publish all my gory and sexually explicit trash poems this way? Nope, instead I have to stick to my lamo love and life poetry so Jane and Sibyllene still love me.

Larry did you misspell my nickname? It's Mori lol or Moria also I am for having more than 2 accounts if they are responsible for their accounts

Quick question because I forgot...

When someone creates an account, do they need to use a different email address or can they create different accounts with the same email address?

Different email Everlasting you can't have two accounts in one email account sadly

Closing this & opening new thread

Yes, Mori, typo. Sorry