need help w/ 100 reasons NOT to believe in God

i know there are alot of different religions out there, and i don't judge anyone by what they believe in, but i am strictly athiest. some of my christian friends found out and they wrote me a list of 100 reasons why you should believe in God... i need help with a list of 100 reasons why i don't and should NOT believe in God. please help!!

if you DO believe in a god or gods... don't post anything. i'm not looking for arguments on this...

What do you exactly want? Once we post 100 reasons why to believe in him there will be arguements. It is only for your own good. How could you not?

first of all, it's 100 reasons NOT to believe in him.. and i don't believe in god for alot of reasons. mostly because my dad is a scientist and after discussing it with him i realised his point of view, and i've done research on alot of differant religions and the christian religion seems like a bunch of bs to me.

Wow..Kati same here! Ok reason one: There is no real proof that he was real, just a book, call the Bible, and anyone could have written that as a book of marals/lessons.

i dont mean to be rude, but if you said you are strictly athiest and i assume you have your reasons for not believing, but you wouldnt be doing yourself any justice if you didnt come up with those 100 reasons yourself. because if you truly dont believe in god an you have no doubt about that , than those 100 reasons for NOT believing,shouldnt be a challenge to you.

Hussain... you beat me to it :o)..That's exactly what I was going to say.
Come up with your own reasons... not someone else's.

i have my own reasons.. i have difficulties putting my opinions and ideas into words

Tell me those 100 reasons why to beleive in god and I'll prouve them wrong, if I can ^^

lol ditto kati *smiles*

You say the Bible can't be proven, but then how do you know that history books are true? Perhaps the people who wrote those lied too. We have no past... How do you know history is real? Faith in historians? Faith in God is the same.

Reason #1

Auschwitz

Reason #2

Discriminating

Reason #3

Every religion, especially Christianity and Islam, has been the excuse to go to war...

Reason #4

You cannot prove the existence of any God, or mircales...Yet you can prove that many of the theories presented in the different holy books, are completely false...

Interesting Enslavement but not entirely true...actually not true at all :o)

Reason #1

Auschwitz

Now using religion as an excuse by a tyrant like Hitler is one thing but religion being the actual cause for Auschwitz, not true. it was more about land and greed, religion was merely dragged into it to gain further support. Feel free to elaborate or rebutt on my comments, I'm not here to argue but keen to learn the thought processes and opinions of others.

Reason #2

Discriminating

No religion actually discriminates, that defeats the purpose and it actually against the beliefs of the three semetic religions. It may have caused forms of discrimination but this is human fault and and human interpretation, not the religion itself or at the will of any God.

Reason #3

Every religion, especially Christianity and Islam, has been the excuse to go to war...

No greed and money have been the main reason to go to war. Policitians and people in power who "start" these wars use religious beliefs as a means of attracting followers, i gurantee you all Gods particularly Christian and Islam disapprove of and strictly punish such behaviour come judgement day

Reason #4

You cannot prove the existence of any God, or mircales...Yet you can prove that many of the theories presented in the different holy books, are completely false...

Nor can anybody disprove it. Where is the proof that the holy books are completely false?

why don't you keep your views to yourself, Mr Ismail...

to say that everyone here believes in God is perhaps the most ridicolous thing I've heard yet...

This is a topic made by Kati, and if you have a problem with her being atheist, then I suggest you get the hell out of this one...because we don't care about you...

So piss off..

sayonara

I am pretty sure that several things in the Bible can be disproven...

I'm not making fun of it, Eirisia...and I like allready, so I'm not angry with you=)

and I disagree with you on a couple of points there...People interpret their religions differently...and no one interprets it wrongly...

Islam says that being a homosexual shall be punished with execution...at least, some interpret it that way...
and so on..

But anyways...as Kati said, can't you religious people just don't write here, because we atheists are really not interested in your views now, and would like to be able to discuss without interference...

I'm not insulted, I just find it interesting that after speaking with her father (who is a scientist), Kati has discredited religion altogether. Now, to me that means she's either completely misinterpreted what her father told her, or her father isn't a very good scientist.

There are many, many people in the scientific community who believe that their knowledge of science only adds to their personal religious beliefs. It is only when you consider the amazing scientific properties of the world, the solar system, and the universe as a whole that you realise that there must be something out there to control it.

Far too many people use science as a cop-out when dismissing religion. Science does not, and cannot, explain everything. Anyone who suggests that we, as humans, have enough scientific knowledge to account for the entire universe has no repute within the scientific community.

Science also 'proves' nothing. Situations are very rarely that clear cut.

Nothing exists until we look for it.

As for 'Auschwitz existed, therefore there is no God,' I think a previous poster dealt with that perfectly well.

hmm...

Imagine someone standing on the street, talking and shouting to someone who isn't there...Kissing someone who isn't there...

Well, that`s how stupid religion looks to me

As franz ferdinand sing "its always better on holiday" and most time that i get off school is because of christian holidays so im not complaining about god

Where have I been insulting religions?

Yeah, I know you mean this thread, but if you read it, you will see that at least 5 here are non-religious...and those who are religious are NOT supposed to write here, as Kati said in the first post. She wants HELP finding 100 reasons, not arguments against every single one of them..

How would you guys like it if you made a thread in which you sought help to find reasons to believe in God, and all us stupid atheists came and made a dispute?

So please, just stay out..make your own tread...

I do in fact respect Christian people alot...I even attend to a Christian school, and have many christian friends...

If it really seems like I'm inulting you, then I apologize...I am not too good at expressing myself, as English is not my first language...so forgive me if I have been mistaken...

and Okay, Ismail, I'm sorry..

I haven't had the best day, and it pissed me off to read what you wrote...

but please..lets not make this into another of those hopeless "is there a god" thread, because we can't find a solution to that...

Let us atheists try to help Kati, okey..

sorry man...

peace?

Auschwitz:

It was documented that a women on her way to the gas ovens in 1944 -who was very religious - was praying for a release to the suffering/s of those men women and children around her facing the same fate. Shortly before she arrived in the 'showers of certain death', she was heard to say that: 'There is no God'. Subsequently, some 6,000,000 people lost the'r lives in Auschwitz -religion/beliefs offered them nothing.

I gave Auschwitz as an example of doubt.

Reason#5: George W Bush

I know this is an atheist post, which is fine... but Enslavement? Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. What about the wind? It's a feeling, it's belief. No one can take a picture of the wind, or God. And yet, we know it is there. Just as wind is air, God is spirit.

George W. Bush?

Well, I think comparing the wind to God is a incorrect way of putting it, since the wind can actually be felt by everyone, and it can be proven. It is there, no doubt.

The Wind is not a belief. The wind is a fact, which can be seen by the eye.

Yet God cannot be proven, and not everyone can feel he is there, if he even is.

I'm sorry, but I find your argument quite irrelevant, and I think you will too, if you think about it.

And I am not saying that things must be seen in order to be there...That would be stupid, since sight is only one of 5 (6?) senses.

I am not an atheist. I'm an agnostician (if thats a word). I do believe that there is something there, but I most certainly don't believe in any religion.

I think by Mel mentioned Bush because he is a murderer of innocent people. At least that is how the rest of the world sees him.

But I wouldn't use Bush as an argument when discussing God.

Sure, he is Christian, and a bad man (I think), but that does not necessarily (I know I misspelled that one) have anything to do with him being religious.

There is in truth only one good reason not to believe in God, and that is simply the fact that you don't think he is there. I am 100% certain, and that works for me.

I will not belive in religion, because I know to myself that it is pointless...And that is all I need...And there is no point in arguing about that...

I have been so far away from the topic now, that I actually have returned to it. I completed the circle. Heavy

peace , be you religious or not. I'm sure you are great=)

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*I think Mel

far from perfect English:)

Every time we get to having an intelligent philosophical discussion somebody says 'oh but this is pointless.' :)

I know how this thread started and will say that really, if you don't want to hear people's opinions on a topic, whether they agree with you or not, then you shouldn't post things like that on an internet forum. Saying "you may reply, but only if you agree with me" is tantamount to dictatorship. People should have enough conviction in their own beliefs to be able to withstand an opposing point of view from someone else without
a) taking personal offence and
b) resorting to namecalling.

George W. Bush was elected by the citizens of the United States of America (in their infinite wisdom) and *not* by God. It's necessary to separate man's various failings from God. To blame God when things go wrong shows a distinct lack of control over one's life.

For the record, I am a Christian but I don't believe in religion. By that I mean that I choose to live by Christian values but not to participate in any sort of organised religion. This is because I believe that God and religion are mutually exclusive. God doesn't cause religious wars. Organised religion does. God doesn't cause religious hatred. Organised religion does.

Thank you. :)

Oh, I love you Karen..

Excellent way of putting it...

I will never follow any religion, because I think that God, if he exists, would not be proud of his so-called followers...no offence...

a thought just struck my mind...I wonder what people in like 500 years will think of the way Christians nowadays pracitce their religion...

I mean, for 1000 years ago it was commonly accepted to kill non-christian people, if they didn't convert. Back then, I am sure they thought of that as the right way of being Christian. today, doing such a thing would be insane.

Who is to say that Christians today pracitice their religion the right way?

Pure logic would suggest that Christians nowadays are much further from the "right" way of practicing Christianity, than those 1000 years ago, since the death of Christ wasn't that long ago back then..

These are nothing but thoughts...

I am not saying that Christians nowadays are bad people, frankly because you aren't

Peace

- y let tyrants like hitler and saddam hussaine exist?

-rape

- child abuse

- domestic violence

- cot death

- having christians pushing their beliefs on ppl or killin them.

- discrimination/racism

- famine

jus a few i cud think of mean if god existed an looked out 4 us y do we have all the above and more?

Because God created the world and expected us not to ruin it, but we did. and we let him down. So he has a place for everyone who has suffered, everyone who has been hurt and who believes in him and worships him. and that place is paradise, and someday all the good in the world will be safe, and THATS the world God can protect from evil.

Teenagers.

Modern pop/rap music (yes, I mean that facetious bs put out to make money, ripping other people's music and making it their own).

Teenagers and alcohol.

Teenagers and street corners.

Teenagers and their (lack of) respect for everyone.

Teenagers and their (lack of) respect for anything.

Cutting.

The lack of decent teabags in Atlanta.

Bob Ross died.

Plenty more, mostly involving self absorbed teenagers.

Bret, I take it you don't like teenagers very much?

I don't know just a wild guess.

Wow....No comment to the "God is Great". Thuis thread was created so that WE could HELP her with this problem, of needing 100 reasons NOT to believe in god. So, instead of convincing her TO believe in god, lets HELP her, if your Christian,or believe in god, your in the wrong thread.

i can't help you out here....I completely believe in a higher power.

You know, no one has actually given any substantial reasons NOT to believe in God. Everyone keeps giving these things like murder, rape, tyrants, blah, blah...

Do you know WHY those things exist? Because people REFUSE God. If you accepted what God said (ie: Thou shalt not murder) than there wouldn't BE any of that. God letting murder and things like that happen is Him saying, "You denied me, and turned from me, so I gave you over to your sinful lusts, like you wanted." Thus we have murder, and tyrants, and rape etc...

An interesting story about the Columbine incident (the massive school shootings in California, if any of you don't recall, or didn't know):
Shortly after the shootings, a young girl began weeping and asking God, "Why? Why did you let this happen? Why weren't you here?"
Ever so softly, God replied to her, "Because man does not want me there (in public places [in this case, public schools]). This is what happens."

Bad things happen because we reject God. Not the other way around.

Hannah:

You gave NO reason why NOT to believe in God. Just because He's stupid? What kind of reason is that? And you said:

"don't believe in god because you don't want to!"

Sounds a lot like you're trying to make the desicions for a lot of people, here.

~Ciao Lipton

Brokenwings:

I think what the Christians here are trying to say is this: There aren't 100 reasons not to believe in God. There isn't even one reason not to believe in God. Just because you don't want to is an absent-minded reason.

~Ciao Lipton

Lipton:

The 'columbine incident' that you give as an existance of God is pretty damn crap. 'because man doesn't want me here'. It sounds so tacky it could be a line from one of those shitty Holywood films staring Bruce Willis.