some people make me so MAD

ok. I was out hunting with my dad. This was the first time I ever go hunting carrying a gun. all day we got nothing. Later on, during the sunset, I heard a rythmetic scrunching. Then it stopped. Then it started up again. then it stopped again. it went on like that for a while. All this while, my dad was using a buck call every once in a while. He always bleated it twice. About two minutes after he bleated at one point, I heard a single bleat. My heart started racing. You know what happened next? We heard someone hitting a PAN to scare the deer. No coincidence. We were hunting on permission only property, (and had permission of course,) and the land nearby was posted with a small rock wall blocking it. We didn't enter that property at all, but the guy must have saw our van and knew we were there. Some hunting area's have jerks like that and it's a hazerd. I might of had my very first buck if it weren't for that person. I never even saw the buck. But I sure heard him. I know someones going to defend the person with the damn pan, but in my point of veiw and my fathers, whom has been hunting since he was 8, it's just a real pain. I feel so angry now. I mean, why do people always have to have their own way?

What a drag! I don't hunt but one time I went fishing with my uncle, and get this, while we were fishing in a lake, (I was in Virginia at this time, my uncle lives with my grandmother to take care of her, and this part of the lake was for fishing only, and you have to have a permitt, and we had a permitt, just got it that day, and some crazy people on a moter boat zoomed like right pass our boat, and get this, (believe me or not) snagged my line, and snaped it. Ran right over it, plus scaring the fish! I know how you feel.

-*-Cherri-*-

while im not into the whole fishing/hunting scene people should just mind their own business, personally i woulda taken a few pot shots in their direction =) maybe thats why im not trusted around guns lol

they snaped your line?? jeez, bummer. hope that wasn't your last lure! ;)

I would *never* kill for sport. My whole family loves deer meat, and we hunt.

Thank you Bob! I find hunting absolutly wasteful in the age where we dont have to kill animals to survive. Is it less murder just because Hanibal Lecter ate his victims? I have absolutly NOTHING against people who hunt to survive, but people who kill just because they can, shame the human race. Is it fair that a deer is forced up against a human with camoflage (sp?), super accurate weapons, binoculars, scopes... Everything possible to give us the unfair advantage?? I'll admit to it, I was running a cross country meet and we saw some hunters parked on the side of the road, I screamed as loud as I could in hopes of saving a life. No matter what you do with the carcass aftrerward, you still took away an innocent life.

I'm not a hunter butI see no difference in consuming meat from an animal that was bagged by a hunter or from one that went through the slaughter house.

just for the record, I'd like to say that the hunter vs. the deer is more of a fair fight then a lot of people think. We have camo, yes, but deer have an accute sense of hearing and smell. Our weapons may be accurate, but that's nothing if they see or smell you. Also, it's not like a hunter walks into the woods and the deer is standing there saying 'ok, i'm here, shoot me now'. You don't get a deer everytime you go hunting. Also, control of the deer population. We have seasons to hunt them. Hunting out of season is poaching, which I am against 100%. If we didn't control the population, they would overpopulate and many of them would starve to death over lack of food, especially during the winter. I also respect deer, and I respect them when they are killed. I also respect them when they are eaten. I love deer. Whether it be their meat or watching them graze freely. They are beautiful creatures.

my family has been hunting forever and i've been against it for a while

but I live out in the country where there are so many deer its insane and I started hunting a few years ago because everytime I go down a highway I always see a drea thats been hit by a car and I would rather shoot one and consume it than have it be hit by a car, maybe hurt the person in the car and left for hours to die if it's not killed upon impact, plus with howmany deer there are and for how fast they reproduce its beter to shoot them than let them run in front of a car and cause accidents or starve to death in the winter

I love dear btwm like I raise fawns all the time that loose their moms to a car or somthing and then they go up on 80 acres of land to just hang out where theirs no hunting

I like places of conservation. I don't look at every deer and think about shooting them. I love animals, and people always say I love them too much and are surprised that I hunt, but I'm against killing for no reason. If I wasn't going to eat the meat I would never shoot the deer. It's just like fishing. You don't catch the fish just to catch them, do you? In my opinion, being killed for the perpose of just killing is the most disrespectful things a person could do.

wait a minute, livestock don't even get a chance. At least wild deer have a healthy chance of escaping.

I'm against killing "livestock" for food more than I am hunting. Hunting is definatly more fair, and well natural, for lack of a better word. But it's still unnecisary. If you have need to hunt, or your the type of person that eats soley things you get yourself, I wont argue. and before you talk about how neccisary hunting is- do your research.

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=53

"Duck hunters in Louisiana persuaded the state wildlife agency to direct $100,000 a year toward “reduced predator impact,” which involved trapping foxes and raccoons so that more duck eggs would hatch, giving hunters more birds to kill."

"The Ohio Division of Wildlife teamed up with a hunter-organized society to push for clear-cutting (decimating large tracts of trees) in Wayne National Forest to “produce habitat needed by ruffed grouse.”"

"Colorado is dealing with an overpopulation of elks, but programs aimed at controlling their numbers have led to “mistaken identity” killings of protected moose. Although more hunting permits are being issued and tens of thousands of elks are killed every year by hunters, there has been no reduction in the population"

"If left unaltered, the delicate balance of nature’s ecosystems ensures the survival of most species. Natural predators help maintain this balance by killing only the sickest and weakest individuals. Hunters, however, kill any animal they would like to hang over the fireplace—including large, healthy animals who are needed to keep the population strong."

"Starvation and disease are unfortunate, but they are nature’s way of ensuring that healthy, strong animals survive and maintain the strength of the entire herd or group. Shooting an animal because he or she might starve or become sick is arbitrary and destructive."

"In 2001, according to the International Hunter Education Association, there were dozens of deaths and hundreds of injuries attributed to hunting in the United States—and that only includes incidents involving humans"

"There are 20 million deer in the U.S., and because hunting has been an ineffective method to “control” populations...wildlife agencies are considering other management techniques"

1. Have you seen elk and moose before? They are practically impossible to mistaken for each other. One is more likely to confuse a horse for a cow.

2. 5,840 people with pillow related injuries checked into U.S. emergency rooms in 1992. Pillows must be wrong, too, by your logic.

3. 'Let us not hunt because it hasn't reduced the population significantly enough.' Does this make sense to anyone?

4. Deer are more dangerous than anyone here seems to think. In my area, where hunting is a relatively popular autumn activity, deer are still a valid driving hazard, and cause many accidents, injuries and deaths. I count myself lucky not to come across dear when driving home at night.

5. Logging allows for variety among both animal species and vegetation. The diversity of bushes, grasses, berries, and sapplings in a young forest is incredible- something one never sees in an old growth forest. And I personally would much rather see a clear-cut patch of forest than an entire forest burned to the ground because the trees grew too thick and too dry. Logged areas recover much faster than burned ones; has anyone seen Yellowstone lately? But this is not the place to argue logging- I believe hunting is the topic here.

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I agree with "hell kity"

If the population of deer increases to be too large, then more damage is being done than if there are hunters killing them. If enough aren't killed, then there are too much deer, and too less of food and other things they need to survive. That might not make sense to some of you, it barely makes sense to me :) but if you look it up, it will explain I swear!

My dad's a professional hunter... No, he doesn't kill them and just leave them to hang on a wall. We eat the meat, and the leftover meat goes to the places where they store it and sell it. Guys, don't think we don't need to hunt anymore because we have enough food--- Because half of that food is made of animals. So, there has to be at least some hunting to get food on the table or in the fridge. But I do agree with the issue of killing for sport... It makes me mad when I see a deer that is just shot in the middle of the woods for no reason. And I know that I could never shoot one, because I think they are beautiful and I just couldn't do it. But when my dad hunts, or any other hunter for that matter, I'm all for it as long as they intend to use the meat. Sorry if I'm making no sense! :)