Losing virginity, aren't you afraid?

Do you realise that just because your NOT married doesn't mean that you're going to implant your seed and run out the door screaming "I'VE JUST CREATED A BABY AND NOW IM GOING TO RUN AWAY!!! IF ONLY WE WERE MARRIED I WOULD NEVER HAVE LEFT YOUR SIDE!!!" For goodness sakes - I have lots of friends that have babies and are not married and the father/mother of the baby are still together - people CAN have sex and CAN have a baby without being married and they CAN actually stick together through it all too. Amazing huh?

Then what's the meaning of marriage in your point of view?

and to make it short, just search the internet about the good and bad effects of having sex before marriage, i hope u will find good effects lol

Well Im married already. Im not fighting the war for or against marriage - Im just stating that you need to look at the facts of relationships that are not bound by a ring and a piece of paper first.

You're making your statements based on unfactual assumptions such as people who have sex before marriage are in it for the sex and not the long run and are not dedicated to each other etc. There are a lot of people as committed to each other as a married couple but that are not legally married or on paper - but they are still dedicated to each other.

Ok... enough said. Im on my way - dont want to drag this thread into the ground going back and forth. I understand your idea to wait and thats great - but dont run down other's choices of not waiting til they're married - or maybe not even wanting to get married at all. All to their own. It all can have positive and negative effects on different people.

..... I dont want to get married....
things just lose interest, like thats the end, you know?
hmm it just seeme dull to me.
and 89% of the people (whom I know personally) are miserable in their marriage- and tell me men suck and dont ever date, which I kinda ...already knew...

cant say I fear loosing my virginity, which aint gonna happen any time soon thats for dam sure.
boys are childish, anoying andunreliable... I think i'll take my chances at solicity, thank you very much!
of course thats only my opinion.

Oh, I'm a dirty girl? You naughty boy, I didn't know you were into kinky name calling.

Alright Mister, I do hope you realize you're making a fool of yourself.

"to tell the truth i knew i will be attacked but not like this, i didn't knew that most girls are careless about their virginity lol. that will make things easier if i wanted to have a sex with a girl before marriage lol
nah just kidding"

Oh yes, it's very funny that you have a gender-based stereotype that girls are careless about their virginity. I believe there's a name for that....Sexism, is it? The only girl in here, as far as I have noticed, that IS NOT or HAS NOT saving/saved their virginity for someone special--Is Rebecca--And frankly, I think she is a little cracked out.

Men have a much higher rate of throwing their virginity around than women do. Just because we don't wait until marriage, doesn't mean we don't wait until we find someone special who reciprocates our love. You should be lecturing the little boys who run out when their women get pregnant without a wedding band.

I agree with Angelina. Get out and get some, but with that attitude, GOOD LUCK.

" Yes, yes...When is virginity "lost?" Oral sex? Anal sex? Vaginal penetration? Ejaculation? Orgasm? Whipcream? Chocolate? Care to join me? "

look into your words again and see if you have a dirty toung or not

Angelina

so i don't the meaning of love and you know it huh?
that's fine with me but are you soo pissed?
you shouldn't be pissed since you know the meaning of love lol

Come on people. Look at Gene Simmons and his.. Erm.. "girlfriend"? They have kids and aren't legally married and are happy together, so it seems.

I agree completly with Mo.
You don't have to have a ring and papers to be in love and have a child and actually stay together.

OHHHHH OHH. Let me put two more cents in.

I think, personally, that a relationship changes when you have sex.

Like.. If you didn't have sex before you were married.. What happens when you do and everything has changed? I'm not saying I'm not going to wait because my virginity is precious to me.. But does anyone see my point?

Stop putting "lol" after like every freaking sentence when you state such bold opinions . It makes me want to punch you . My god, marriage isn't needed to have kids and a healthy, strong relationship between the parents .

"to tell the truth i knew i will be attacked but not like this, i didn't knew that most girls are careless about their virginity lol. that will make things easier if i wanted to have a sex with a girl before marriage lol
nah just kidding"

"yes i do but will u be happy that u were born like this and most of the time u have no father!! he just throw his lust to your mom then left. will u be happpy to be like this?"

Uh, hello ? Sexism alert ? You talk about females throwing around their virginity, ahem . Yet that "he just throw his lust to your mom the left" just says that men are freaking doghounds . Great rebut towards them about females not throwing their virginities around as much as men .
Go grow a brain, take some major acting classes, and then try and get laid, son . You need it .

EDiT (add on):

Mmm . I see your piont, Vic... I can't even spell that o.O Vic something Fate xD

" Yes, yes...When is virginity "lost?" Oral sex? Anal sex? Vaginal penetration? Ejaculation? Orgasm? Whipcream? Chocolate? Care to join me? "

look into your words again and see if you have a dirty tounge or not

^ What does that have to do with my tongue? Or my fingers for that matter?! I'm a germaphobe, you really think hygiene does not apply to my tongue and fingers? Pah! Alright, I'll be serious. Yes, that was naughty of me to say...but I actually am curious as to what you consider sex. Anything past kissing? Can I give you a handjob before you get married?

No, i mean just joking cap'n jane, anyways how bout them cubs?

They're pretty cute, aren't they? Soft and cuddly...but where is Mama Bear?

Dah! "The Adventures of One-Breasted Abe and Jungle Jane" has been closed! Man, that sucks.

Momo, I am dead to everyone, yes. Thanks abby for clarifying. You know, a lot of fools my age are still in highschool, so it's okay to assume I would be living with my parents. I was kicked up a grade.

And thread poster, one more thing: Who the hell are you waiting for?

I take it that you arent religios, on account of the fact that, hmmmm
HAVING SEX WITH ANYONE SAVE YOUR SPOUSE BONDS YOU TO THAT PERSON AND LEAVES YOU EMOTIONALY DRIED OUT!
anyway, i think your an idiot if u have sex b4 marrige, or marry someone that did, unfortuantly, no one cares what i think.... not yet anyway...
*edit*
oops didnt realize tards had completely destroyed this convo...
i like the yankees. can yah guess why? ^^

Brokenreality,

getting angry doesn't suit you at all looool

Restlesomething - "oops didnt realize tards had completely destroyed this convo...
i like the yankees. can yah guess why?"

Mo - Umm... cause they get laid?

Neema - "Seems that I am the only virgin around here Shame on you girls, a guy is beating you in your territory!"

Mo - Since when has virginity been our territory? You do realise when two people do the horizontal tango that two people are involved and that two people could (potentially) be loosing their virginity dont you? We dont loose it on our own... well most dont ... Im special...

PS -Sherry - maybe you left your virginity somewhere near that flag that us worldy women united in putting up... somewhere near the state of Virginity - remember... our territory? Yeah. Its probably there. But might need a bit of dusting off Id say.

"show me when man was suppose to be virgin? "

I'd say "at whatever time he had not yet done the nasty with a lady-type." But maybe I'm just crazy... ; )

No i'm wasn't afraid... i don't even remember when or anything was my first time... but we always find someone even if it means that... if you are completely honesty with the man you are going to marry he will not care if he loves you enough so why worry...

Oh Neema you pretty butterfly you! :) Surely you're used to me by now.

From Ms Sarcasm

Lol...I see this thread has caused a whole lotta ruckus...Lol..

*Eats Popcorn while watching the fights between the two genders*

I think that the concept of virginity is synonymous with women more than men. But virginity is merely not a biological state but a sociopsychological and philosophical state. The whole concept of virginity is one in which a woman is "saving herself" for the man of her life. But because it has throughout history been a "man's world," there has always existed a hypocritical double standard regarding the value of virginity.

I think that rather than telling a woman to be an idealised version of the Virgin Mary...And calling them "dirty" which is quite low in calling a woman...You should accept the fact that women have the right to do what they want in the society we are living on.

But I understand where the original poster is coming from, in his society, there is still a puritan concept that:

Marriage= Sex+Family+Happiness

And in order to acheive that:

Man (May be virgin, but 80% of them aren't virgin)+Woman *Virgin* (A definite must or family loses honor)= Marriage

And frankly many cultures and societies still practice this...Sadly!!

I agree. For once. With Nori.

Love ya Mo...

Hey noir,

you lived in more than one society and you should know that society which you call "puritan " and "Marriage= Sex+Family+Happiness" is much more correlative than the others. and even if you didn't notice that statistics show its true

Can you show me the statistics...Waiting?

I'd like to see how it's much more correlative...?

Waiting 4 some1 - You're absolutely right. We're all wrong. Have a nice life jacking off waiting for that perfect virgin wife of yours. Im sure she'll be knocking on your door any year now. You're name should actually be more like "Waiting 4 virgin only" or something - its too easy to be misleading in this day and age.

Ciao!

PS - Neems - thanks! :) I do agree we need not worry about offending each other. I dont think Ihave too many serious things to say afterall... Just keeping it light.

A little much mo. a little harsh. let the dude believe what he wants. personally before i do "the nasty thing" as some have been calling it i want to know that i love the girl first, that i know i want to be with her forever. it may be old fashioned but what is the point of the whole wedding night honeymoon deal if you have already done the "nasty thing" it sort of defeats the purpose

Im 2 lazy 2 read all that so... i wasn't scared 2 loose mine!Me and my bf had been going out for over a year and we had known eachother for forever! since we were like babies! we loved eachother more than n e thing!we were gonna get married after i turned 18 cuz he was like 2 years older than me... we would still be together if he didn't get killed!well... i knew i was ready so... i wasn't scared but... i can definately see your point!

Hey noir i was out so i coudn't reply. i made some research on the net and i will send it to you soon.

to mo,
first of all majority doesn't mean you are right. second don't talk about my name please i will never let you insult me by it. third i didn't say that i am waiting for a female or male and even if that person is female it shouldn't be my love or future wife she could be one of my family member. finally, you said before you will not interferr anymore in this thread and i was happy lol, so why you came back?

Davdid - if you read all the thread you'll realise I've explained in quite a few posts different opinions. Im not on either side - each to their own. All Im saying is that everyone's said that its up to the person and not necessarily "right" or "wrong" but what Waiting seems to be getting at (and I've been patient up until now) is that his way is right and making out that sex outside of marriage is pointless and not going to last.

I've seen just as many marriages break up as I have serious relationships. Its a fact of life these days - so is everyone going to not have sex just incase their marriage doesn't work out too?

Its just a topic that is bound to get people's backs up when he's not accepting of other's ways at the same time as putting forward his own beliefs. Believe it or not, I have only ever slept with one person - my husband. But I would never want to force that on others by pointing out that its the only way and that its right. Its just my choice. As it is other's choice.

I was patient and yes probalby a little OTT in the end... but it was just getting to the point where someone had to say it.

Atleast the man has his priorities lined up and numbered, wait a second why am i choosing a side? this topic means nothing to me.
see you all in the funny papers i will resign myself to sitting on the sidelines, eating popcorn, and making obscene jokes at people's expense.
oh by the way noir have you bought a heart yet?

Crap! you would post something i disagree with, oh well God bless

Me? What did you disagree with?

Ah just the whole marriage break ups are a thing we have to get used to

Im not saying we have to get used to them - they are a fact of life. IN every religion, in ever country, with all nationalities - there are divorces. I hate them as much as you do - but they happen and thats it.

What I was saying about that is - you dont go into a marriage thinking "This is not going to work"... same as you dont think that going into a relationship. Lots of people have sex in a serious relationship where they base their relationship on the same things as a married couple do.

I'm not trying to disagree but i'll just say to level all debates to an even playing field that when a compromise is reached and we learn to tolerate, that's when the dam breaks and all is lost.

David - I may remind you of that quote oneday when you're telling me to calm down over a topic I believe strongly in!!! :)

Maybe the reason i am "obnoxious and disliked" like i am is because i'm never satisfied.

i have always been disatisfied i know that. sometimes i feel i wreak of discontentment to the point where there is nothing left. just the discontentment.

but then that is my place, maybe if i fight a battle, even a losing one i might light a spark in someone. maybe because i was unwilling to give myself a better reputation by giving in i might be able to help many people, or just one person

if i have been able to reach one person, then, all is done, i can die happy. but in the end what lies deep in the heart of david thomas johnson, maybe too deep and different to understand is something the world needs. i could be wrong, i most certainly cannot question the judgement of others

but here i stand, there is a flame at my heart for my friends and beliefs that not even i can easily smother or consume

Nothing more, nothing more, i am done talking, give me a few minutes to collect myself. and mo, i do thank you

This was a good thread. Its a controversial topic and you guys sure had my attention. I took the time out to read everyones opinion and during this time I formed my own.

Waiting4some1 I clearly see and respect your point about the whole aspect of saving your virginity until mariage. Its YOUR opinion and we cant take that from you. However, since you got your time to present your thoughts about the topic, I think it is only fair for you to listen to what OTHERS have to say and respect it.
Waiting is infact the right thing to do, But you cant shoot me because I didnt wait. Damn I did it and it was sure good. I know that I should have waited but whats gone is gone. And you cant regain that.
We dont fall inlove with someone for what they have(or in this case what they dont have) we fall in love with the individual, their unique personality and look on life.

~Hope~