Kim Jong-il dead

...any thoughts on this? Do you feel this will have an effect on the world in any way?

Whoo...was....that :|

Mmmm..North Korean (should I call him a Prime Minister)? Dictator or just a dic for short????

Nah,it won't affect the world..dem asians just have to vote for someone else... lmao

oh wait.. if there's a dictatorship going on..no one gets to choose..eek. or do they?..what is this? man..I hate politics.

They're actually communists so they don't vote...his son will take place...a boy in his twenties..a country no one really knwos much about...nuclear or otherwise...

Oh. Man.

"Nah,it won't affect the world..dem asians just have to vote for someone else... lmao"

Lol are you serious? He was one of the most volatile tyrants our age has ever seen...

I think that this is somewhat of a blessing. I hope that Korea can sort itself out with him out of the picture.

I'm going through this sort of weird spiritual period in my life, so I've had mixed emotions.

At first notice of the news, I was thrilled. Hearing the stories I have heard about North Korea and doing the reseach I've done, he's despicible.

At the same time, I don't want to celebrate the death of someone (like I did with Bin Laden). I feel guilty for doing so. But I didn't WISH him dead.. or have a hand in his death. I still feel guilty. Idk.

Another note, what I am terrified of is his son, Kim Jong Un (if thats the correct spelling). I hope there isn't a sort of power trip happening now.

Actually, it will have an undetermined but great impact on world events, possibly devastating.

Much as Kim Jong-il was seen as a war monger and a loose canon, at least he backed down from open aggression. Accords reached in the past 5 years could be at risk.

The apparent regent, Chang Sung-taek, provides some continuity, since he has been working behind the scenes as second-in-command during Kim Jong-il's poor health. He's met with various Western leaders & seems to maintain the policies of militarism & independence from outside control. Of course, the role of China in sanctioning the actions of N. Korea remains disputable.

The presumption is that Kim Jung-un will pass over his older brothers to become the new leader of the party & Supreme Leader of N. Korea; this belief may actually turn out to be wrong. If history has taught us anything, it is that all bets are off when a power vacuum opens.

Kim Jong-un has had a long exposure to the Western culture, having studied in Switzerland. Interestingly, he expressed concern for his peoples' condition as compared to the luxury in which the ruling party elite live. This attitude may prove to be his downfall.

On the other hand, Kim Jong-un's brothers have their own problems. The oldest, brother, Kim Jong-nam had an embarrassing episode where he was arrested trying to sneak into Japan on a fake passport to visit Disneyland. Another brother, Kim Jong-chul, was groomed for awhile, but was passed over, based, it is said, on his feminine appearance.

All this drama gives rise to the possibility that the country could face internal struggle for control. Remember that Korea has a nuclear arsenal with the power to deliver strikes as far away as 3,500 miles. The cessation of testing did not result in the destruction of these weapons. Also, recall that it was only in 2008 that the country was removed from the list of states sponsoring terrorism. It remains among the worst in the protection of its citizen's civil rights. Most important, the leadership is Stalin-style-communist, run by the party with cult devotion to the leader. Politics is still driven by the leaders' desire to re-unify with South Korea by any means at their disposal.

I clapped my hands and went "eeeee!" with joy when I found out Kim Jong-il died. I have no sympathy for self-proclaimed deities. He subjugated his people, starved them, cut off their communication with the outside world, took away their freedom, controlled the media, and utilized concentration camps.

I doubt North Korea will be any better without him, but one bad guy dead is a start.

One less devil's spawn.

What I found interesting was the news coverage we are getting in Australia. The newcaster who broke the news to the North Korean people was in tears...all I've seen is the people of this country in tears! Are they brainwashed so badly or....are they acting this way out of fear?

I imagine it's a combination of both. There are a lot of people there who really genuinely believe that Kim Jong Il was a great leader, and that their country is the best in the world. From their perspective, it must be traumatic to lose someone you admire, but at the same time, they must be scared, I mean, if you lose your leader suddenly you've no way of knowing what's next for your country. Even if (in their eyes) his death was a good thing, I imagine there'd still be a great deal of fear involved. As for faking the tears... I doubt that.

Edit:
Please excuse rambling... I'm running on way too much caffeine right now.

But they do know...it will be one of his sons so...are they crying because more hardship is inevitable? This country has been divided just as Germany was...I have lived in South Korea and I know so many families who have family on the other side..there is NO communication whatsoever.

"The newcaster who broke the news to the North Korean people was in tears...all I've seen is the people of this country in tears!"

A sure sign that a leader is a dictator, despot, or tyrant is that he is "beloved" by all his people... usually because if you say anything otherwise, you will be visited in the night and never be heard from again. O.0

In the free world, our leaders are rarely ever "beloved." We may "like" or "tolerate" them, but rarely ever does anyone "love" them. :p

North Koreans lived in fear of Kim Jung-Il. They may have loved him, some of them, but it was a fool's love. They didn't know any better. How could they?

His son will be no better.

His parents should have named him 'Kim Jong Healthy' instead

For all who have sympathy for a merciless dictator (agree with Ingrid ^, I would rather compare him to the devil, excuse my tongue):

Under his leadership, North Korea lost 2 million people, about 10% of the population, to starvation. Because of his personal greed, his desire to show the world that he has one of the mightiest armies in the World, and his nuclear ambitions, N. Korea sank ever deeper into poverty and isolation, alienated from the rest of the World.
How can anyone have sympathy with a devil's misguided messenger.

His son, Kim Jong Un, was made a 4 star general by his father 2 years ago, is a virtual unknown. He secretly attended a German-language public high school in Bern, Switzerland, where he was registered as the son of a North Korean diplomat. His classmates described him as crazy about basketball and computer games.
One can only hope, that the young man's Western education, and time spent in Switzerland will have taught him enough about peace and harmony with the rest of the World.
Given the nature of military dictatorships, though, this is highly unlikely that the most brutal of military leaderships will pave the way for a peaceful transition.

I hope Spring will arrive in the Asian part of the world soon, like it did in the Arab region;)

Actually Ingrid it goes beyond the Arab world and the far east of Asia.
a revolution is needed everywhere in the world it seems.

as for North Korea, Yey for his downfall, but since like NK is almost the only country i know of in the world who is a communist kingdom like, His son looks like he is going to carry on his dad's corrupt system, much more people seems like they are going to loose their lives while we're too busy watching the Kardishan show and the NBA debate..

this world sickness me

Yes Ingrid!

Hopefully, Wall Street would be a blooming rose, too :)

The Arab Spring Revolutions seem epidemic!

An evil dictator died due to health issues, not because of a revolution in North Korea. It's not near the same thing at all... If that's the correlation you're trying to make.

We're just waiting for The Kladaradatash.

No Britt, it's not the same thing. I know how the dictator died. I am hoping for something good to come from this, but don't think the people of North Korea have it in them to overthrow the son of His Illness....and we do need a world wide revolution, Rabea, indeed. I wonder what it will take to make it happen.

Everyone has to unite and make the change.. that's what need to happen..because one person alone..can't change the whole world.

The problem is not everyone agrees on how things should be. We have a very broad spectrum of people, from those who believe everyone should be free with no rules and regulations, to those who are tyrant dictators and want to have everyone under their thumb. So having everyone unite will be an odd struggle. Hell, America can't even get over it's two party divide to get a simple bill passed that essentially everyone agrees on, it's just the "time" involved in extentions. I can't imagine the whole world coming together to live in peace. It just can't happen.

I suppose I'm glad he's dead. The world is a better place without someone like him. But like Britt said, I don't think I can truly rejoice in the death of another person.

as for this revolution idea. I agree with Britt again. Too many chiefs and not enough indians, my dad would say. Everyone wants to be in charge. People of the "free world" are too caught up in themselves, and I don't think we'll ever be able to agree enough to come together. Aside from that, people for the most part are all to content with just sitting back and watching tv and doing nothing to ever revolt. Lethargy and apathy rule on high.

Also, Yaki, I disagree with you. One person can change the world. It's been done many times before. It may well be more of a chore now than it was before. But nothing worth having comes easy

Oh you disagree with me? I don't care balls :D

lmao...

-.- for reals? lol

ONE PERSON CAN'T CHANGE THE WHOLE WORLD..DAMN IT.

For better or worse, they totally can. Hitler, Alexander the Great, Albert Einstein, Martin Luther (not to be confused with Martin Luther King Jr. another person who changed the world). There are plenty of people who have, and can.

They changed parts of the world...not all of it..

Due to the spread of Christianity, it can well be said that Martin Luther changed the world, and with his work on the atomic bomb, Einstein definitely changed the world. People can change the world Yakz. You just gotta believe ;)

Hahahah there...you said it.. "people" not one person

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"One person can change the world. It's been done many times before."

Depends on how you mean it.

Hitler wouldn't have accomplished anything on his own. People believed in him. If not believed in him, they followed him and obeyed him blindly. He did not kill 6 million Jews single handedly.

MLK did not change civil rights in America on his own. He was the face of a movement hosted by many.

I think most people who win credit for impacting the world socially (making a difference) are no more or less important than an icon used for familiarity, like the M we associate with McDonalds.

The people working for Hitler and MLK were every bit as evil or good as they were, but do you know their names? Their faces? Probably not.

While Kim Jung-Il was an evil tyrant, it took a hell of a lot of people in North Korea supporting him for any of his ideas to come into fruition. Kim Jung-Il died. Those people remain.

Would changing the symbol for McDonalds have an impact on sales? Would changing the head of the corporation significantly change anything?

It takes more than one person to move a mountain, but there is also such thing as a domino effect.

It can take just one person to start something. To put the idea forth. To begin a movement.

Jane, I hereby put you in charge of writing the rest of my college papers.

Wouldn't be the first college paper I wrote for someone else...

Probably shouldn't share that.

It can take just one person to start something. To put the idea forth. To begin a movement.

^^
All things start with one thing: a thought. When that thought is fuelled by love it will initiate good, if not, it will cause destruction. We always have a choice to either agree with the original idea or not. The degree to which we are informed usually makes the difference. It is easy to control an ignorant crowd, therefore education is essential to all boys and girls around the globe.

Have a blessed Christmas all, may all your actions this coming year spring from love.

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9shSgKbdON8

Pay attention world commies. The hearse is an old Lincoln Continental. And then the fleet of Mercedes.
? What the hell North Korean commies got tired of riding around in manure wagons.

silver shoes...nevi was not talking about MLK the civil rights guy he was talking about Martin Luther the religious protester forgot century from. but he changed religion and created a new venue.