Quotes

So, as you all know, this site is Poems-AND-Quotes, but the focus is mostly on Poetry. SO (and with full knowledge that we can post our own quotes to our accounts, and some of us may), I've decided to create this thread for us to share and discuss some of quotes we've heard recently that really spoke to us.

So. Share and discuss. GO!

"Tobi ga taka o umu" is a Japanese proverb that translates to "A hawk born of a kite"

It means that an extraordinary child can be born of even the most ordinary of parents. This quote to me, means that any of us, no matter how humble our beginnings may seem, have the ability to become something more than where we came from. This quote drives me to become the "Taka", the hawk, and fly much higher than any person who settles to be no more than a kite (Tobi).

It is very beautiful

The way I read it, is that you do not have to become your parents, you do have a choice. If, say, your parents are prone to violence and abuse and you are born out of them, it is not 100% sure that you will turn out to be an abusive parent/ person yourself. You could also find you have it in you to rise above it all and be the best parent / colleague/ spouse etc. ever.

I define extraordinary as being an exceptionally good person too, not just as in succesful or gifted in a way that makes the cash register ring!

I mean the kite's ability to wing itself to a hawk
or there may are gates, opening from kites to hawks
from one coherence of uniformity to another,
from one absolute to the other, on the hinge of an observing turn.
The guy is a seer that is for sure; that is why the subjects of his observations are so fluent.

Here is one in Portuguese:

Guarda-te do homem que nao fala e do cao que nao ladra.

In English, it would be:

Keep away from the man who is silent and from the dog that doesn't bark.

I'd like some thoughts on it.

Karla, I'd rather say:

Stay away from the man who barks and the dog that is silent!!!!

I love this thread, Nevi. Will share some once I have time. Thanks for starting it!

Abed, it does make sense hehehehe

I really don't know what might be the problem with a silent man. We- Brazilian people- are strange he he he

Most of our proverbs say:be quiet.

I like your take on the quote about the hawk, Ingrid. I agree that you don't have to follow in your parents footsteps. and I also agree that being extraordinary can mean being a good person, as good a person as you can be! :)

Karla, that sounds like the phrase "It's always the quiet ones" haha.

Thanks Nevi/ Taka:)

Karla: in Brazil people are always very talkative, right?So if one is quiet, he could be up to something (bad)? That is how I see it..I could imagine having a quiet person around in a room full of outgoing people could make them suspicious..

My mom's folk wisdom:

"Never tell your children not to put beans up their nose."

Karla, your original quote works in the sense that you get no feedback & do not know what to expect. The silent man & silent dog may cause you to feel confident and make a complacent approach, yet each may prove dangerous. A barking man on the other hand warns you away the same as a barking dog.

I like the quote about kites & hawks. However, since kites are still raptors, I think it deals more with not pigeonholing the child based on the parents.

Osho said:

The real question is not that if life exist after death
a) the real question is if you exist while you're living.
b) the real question is if you are alive before death
c) the real question is if you are living before your leaving
d) the real question is if you are living after your leaving.

1_ do you like the quote?
2_which one is Osho's?
3_which one would you prefer?
4_which one do you think I prefer?

1-Yes, I loved the quote.

2-I think it is letter C

3- B for sure.

4-B too.

I have 2 Chinese proverbs for you.

"A beautiful bird is the only kind we cage."

"Everyone pushes a falling fence"

One of my favorites.

"They claim their labours are to build a heaven yet their heaven is populated with horrors. Perhaps the world is not made. Perhaps nothing is made. A clock without a craftsman. It's too late. Always has been, always will be...too late." - Alan Moore, Watchmen

Powerful stuff, Vi veri veniversum vivus vici

nice karla
first one well hehe explains my life
second, a p&q quotes says :
I am not a fence, and the more they pushes me, the more I stand!

"In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt."

Margaret Atwood

Oh dear, talks of dirt are dirty.

My favorite Watchmen quote is from the movie, but not the comic:

To hundreds of fellow inmates who hate his guts, by Rorschach:
"You don't get it. I'm not trapped in here with all of you! You're all trapped in here with ME!"

These seesaw affects of words always fascinate me.

Here are some seriously deep philosophical one's :))). Enjoy!

"Dogs look up to you. Cats look down on you. Pigs treat you like equals." -- Winston Churchill

Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood.
Oscar Wilde

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
Ernest Hemingway

Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working with one.
Bill Gates

Don't you find it Funny that after Monday(M) and Tuesday(T), the rest of the week says WTF?
Unknown (perhaps Poetess)

In the past, when you were angry with someone you fought them. Now you just delete them off Facebook. That'll teach 'em to f*** with you.
oddspeak

Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat.
Jim Davis

A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain.
Robert Frost

A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove you don't need it.
Bob Hope

Everybody who is incapable of learning has taken to teaching.
Oscar Wilde

Men are like bank accounts. Without a lot of money they don't generate a lot of interest.
Unknown

If women didn't exist, all the money in the world would have no meaning.
Aristotle Onassis

My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance.
Tim Allen

Bachelors know more about women than married men; if they didn't, they'd be married too.
H. L. Mencken

Some people live upside down. They like to talk out their ass and the only thing that comes outta their mouth is shit.

LS - I knew you would garantee me my laugh today.hehehehe

I love the nerds one. And the nuts. And the bank. & the teaching.

And the bachelors made me laugh.
The last one cracked me up, and I'm sure that you wrote it.

Those are awesome, David ;)

Thanksss

Guys! Thank you for enjoying my picks from the lighter side of life. How about yours? Put some in please for me to get some laughs too. :)

Isn't "laughter the best medicine" so true?

Here are a few more I read today:

"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It is already tomorrow in Australia." - Charles M. Schulz
(This one especially for the Aussies)

"Have the courage to live. Anyone can die."
(For the suicide/cutter types)

"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Unknown

"Love is what makes two people sit in the middle of a bench when there is plenty of room at both ends"

Many a man owes his success to his first wife and his second wife to his success. - Jim Backus

I recently read that love is entirely a matter of chemistry. That must be why my wife treats me like toxic waste. - David Bissonette

I used to have Mad Cow's disease, but I'm alright Nooooooooow. - Billy Connolly

Middle age is when your age starts to show around your middle. - Bob Hope

Don't bother discussing sex with teenagers, they'll just laugh at how little you know.

Enjoy. Don't ask me to interpret any, you will be surprised how little I know.
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A special thanks to Nevi, for bringing forth this forum, which I thought was long overdue.

I liked the suicidal one the most!

"Have the courage to live. Anyone can die."
(For the suicide/cutter types)

^^
This one has a very deep truth in it.

Thanks for the laughs, guys, and especially David!

This one is perfect for those who know you and for those who think they know you when they truly don't at all.

Enjoy. Don't ask me to interpret any, you will be surprised how little I know.

A few quotes saved on my computer. Just the tip of the ice berg.

"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim." - Bertrand Russell

"Ever eating, never cloying,
All-devouring, all-destroying
Never finding full repast,
Till I eat the world at last."
- Jonathan Swift

"Money is the barometer of society's virtue." - Ayn Rand

"Man is a credulous animal, and must believe something; in the absence of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones." - Bertrand Russell, Unpopular Essays

"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into." - Jonathan Swift

"There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own."
- Herman Melville, Moby-Dick

"The urge for destruction is also a creative urge!" - Mikhail Bakunin

"Those who restrain desire do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained."- William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

"The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar." - Niccola Machiavelli, The Prince

"If life -- the craving for which is the very essence of our being -- were possessed of any positive intrinsic value, there would be no such thing as boredom at all: mere existence would satisfy us in itself, and we should want for nothing." - Arthur Schopenhauer, The Vanity of Existence

"The people that once bestowed commands, consulships, legions, and all else, now concerns itself no more, and longs eagerly for just two things: bread and circuses!" - Decimus Junius Juvenalis

"I do not love men: I love what devours them." - Andre Gide, Prometheus Illbound

And last but not the least.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Quite interesting i might not agree with all of them. but they shows class.

"racist is someone who takes himself too seriously."
Ariafashin

"You can cut a branch down, but you can't put it back."
- My dad

"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
- Martin Luther King Jr.

"It is better to risk saving a guilty person than to condemn an innocent one."

Voltaire, Zadig

"You're never too old to become what you always wanted to be"

"You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you."

This is a small part of "Our deepest fear" by Marianne Williamson

I often think about her words, because I have often encountered people who tried to make me feel small. We even have a saying in Holland that says "Act normal, that is good enough", by that they mean to say, you should not try and become better than any other person. In Holland, the one that makes a fortune will always be reminded of his humble start in life. The complete opposite of the American way of life, where a man who starts as a newspaper boy and ends up a millionaire is considered a role model. In Holland, they would whisper behind his back: "Who does he think he is, that former newspaper boy"

Cree prophecy..

"Only after the last tree has been cut down, Only after the last river has been poisoned, Only after the last fish has been caught, Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten."

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself."
George Bernard Shaw

"I wanted a perfect ending. Now I've learned, the hard way, that some poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment and making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next.
Delicious Ambiguity."
Gilda Radner

"But better to be hurt by the truth than comforted with a lie."
Khaled Hosseini

"You cannot find peace by avoiding life."
Virginia Woolf

"To burn with desire and keep quiet about it is the greatest punishment we can bring on ourselves."
Federico Garcia Lorca

I personally find comic books, or graphic novels more intellectual.

"If I have to have a past, then I prefer it to be multiple choice."
- Alan Moore, Batman: The Killing Joke

"IF YOU HURT INSIDE, GET CERTIFIED, AND IF LIFE SHOULD TREAT YOU BAD...

DON'T GET EE-EE-EVEN, GET MAD!"
- Alan Moore, Batman: The Killing Joke

"I thought, "Well if I'm gonna react might as well overreact!"
- Alan Moore

"Authority, when first detecting chaos at its heels, will entertain the vilest schemes to save its orderly facade."
- Alan Moore, V for Vendetta

"The ending is nearer than you think, and it is already written. All that we have left to choose is the correct moment to begin."
- Alan Moore, V for Vendetta

"Look at him now, poor fellow. That's what a dose of reality does for you...never touch the stuff myself, you understand. I find it gets in the way of the hallucinations."
- Alan Moore, Batman: The Killing Joke

"Plans, plans, plans. They always have their plans. But the problem with their plan... is that when you take an insane person to the asylum, you're just taking him home - the very place he knows best." - Batman Arkham Asylum.

"The aim of argument should be to change the nature of truth."
- Frank Herbert

Why have an argument when you already know the truth?

You miss the point.