What does tis mean for God sake??

"Penman the gracious
have written three lines
first one was readable to him also to others
second: just he could read not others
But third line:
nor he could read
neither others.

It is me, that line!"

Rumi

Which line, it is who?

Like this?

1._ two and four are six

2._ too end fur r ceex

3._ tunfurrceex

Because of Rumy, there must be a profound meaning in there, but it is hard to understand exactly. One could understand to a certain extend.
But what you say has nothing to do with it , cute though.
This is one of his verse that is the most un understandable yet one could see the trace of an abysmal depth in it. And that is quite annoying.

Maybe he, Rumi, decided to have a day off from being profound and just write something that made no sense whatsoever?

Well Nostradamus is a classic example so...why not Rumi :)

Haha
you should know this about Rumy; what he wrote would never stop making sense.
The worth thing is that when he does not seem to make sense is when he really make sense.
And every one knows this is one of the toughest one of all. This called "the third line" in Sufism

A true poet writes from inspiration, but he is at the mercy of the language used. Most writers use characters that are recognized to those who have knowledge of those characters. If the poet creates his own meaning he may be the only one that reads between the lines, but it always amazes me when I read something I wrote years ago and find meaning I do not recall aiming for. I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT A SINGLE CHINESE CHARACTER MEANS. it's Greek to me... lol

The worth thing is that when he does not seem to make sense is when he really make sense.
^^^^

Well...that's just non-sense!

David is Hebrew for beloved I can listen to Yusuf Islam's "The Beloved " and see my perceived divinity . It seems an open minded Jew could too , but all most see is that Cat is converting as all mystics need to transcend the details to reach true peace

http://youtu.be/MshbaZqjDm4

A Catholic monk with a poor spirit could find a path in Zen to his spiritual destination if he sees that religion is only a path and joy can be found in any pilgrimage .

I think you are right in that that the third line is the line between the lines. And what you said is right also but it dose not explain : that line is me

I've read that a lot of Rumi's emotions/expressions just cannot be translated into other languages...truly I feel this is what he meant.

Michael...I used to like Cat Stevens...before he converted.

Me is an empty vessel it is only when a vessel is empty that it can hold the wine that quenches the spiritual thirst that mystics have water is cleansing but man does not live by bread alone
I like the last line of Gibrans poem on joy and sorrow

On Joy & Sorrow
Then a woman said, "Speak to us of Joy and Sorrow."
And he answered:
Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.
And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?
And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?
When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.
Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."
But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.
Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.
Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.
When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.

It is possible.
This also reminds me of the philosophic dilemma: that if God is truly omnipotent so he must be able to create, for example, a rock that he himself unable to move. And If he is, after that creation, he would be omnipotent no more.

Have you seen the movie...The Man Who Sued God?

Much of RUMI's spiritual poems could easily given to an object of desire . It would be almost sacrilege because no mortal could ever posses the divinity that Rumi was writing about . I was googling images last night and it was no mistake that I found a mug shot of an aged woman that I was head over heels with about twelve years ago , but I can't explain why she changed me more than any one I have ever met and what it has to do with longing to be filled

You can't say I have not been attracted to women with convictions lol

http://youtu.be/fXzmvsKiA9E

I should check Gibran it is so profound. But Rumi , I feel is saying something else.

No I did nor see that, Is It any good?

Well...it's worth a look. Personally I loved the whole idea of it. Fisherman loses boat in storm, tries to claim his insurance who says it's an 'act of God' so he decided to sue god...there are all sorts of religious representatives involved in the court case..catholics, jews, muslims etc and, the only way that the claim will be dismissed is if they proclaim there is in fact no god...it's a comedy with a whole lot of irony thrown in there...

It's an Australian movie staring fellow Glaswegian Billy Connelly...

I love what you said about Rumi.
I am listening to BOB now.

suing God?? haha it is hilarious I shall watch it for sure.

First reading the quote from Gibran I thought it was bible.

The empty vessel is also the blank pages of a life waiting to be written or at least that is one way the view the third line in depth after a one dimensional revelation of the superficial self.

Illuminanti (sic) used to accuse me of trying to be sweet by yelling sugar lol

^^^^

I do like that theory Mike...

God save the queen the president of the US still has to swear in and take an oath lol

sounds like an interesting movie

Oh very very very interesting! For some reason it makes sense to me, despite if I do hit the right meaning, it does make a bit of sense.

Penman, as the writer or the poet, sometimes writing poems that made sense to readers and sometimes they did not, but in all cases one definite thing he is sure of, that he cannot understand him self, perhaps as to the fluctuations inside of him which is pretty common I believe...humans being unable to understand themselves, how and what they think, feel, or want, so that 3rd line which:

nor he could read
neither others.

It is me, that line!" ( which no body nor himself can understand)

anyway enough nonsense, just my thoughts. Really loved that thing up there.

Does the original text says that he is the third line?

Of course that is the punch line. I have seen guys have egoistic half cute half serious fight over who is the third line. Like this: It is ME that line.

I havent read any of the replies yet and probably wont spend much time doing it so let me just address the OP....

I believe the secret lies in the very first line:
"Penman the gracious" Who is this Penman? I think Rumi ~feels~ the answer in his soul and that what made him write the 3rd line....

"Illuminanti (sic) used to accuse me of trying to be sweet by yelling sugar lol"

~laughs~