Stupid Immature Kids.....Thats What This Site Is...

well said. weel i said i was done but this reall bugs me. the comment think just because soem one said 2 words in a coment dose not mean they did not read your poem or get it maybe they just did have and think to really ay but still like you poem and wanted you to know. just the fact that they take the tiem to read it you should be happy i mean some one could just say the letter 5 in a comment to me it still mean a lot hell even if they said 1 i mean come one your luck there saying something you could get no comments..

And to add to what i just said, now to me the most immature person on this site is you. Your whinning because you get a bad comment, boo hoo there are people who arn't getting any comments, so be happy that people accualy read your poems, if this site is all immature kids than why are you still here? oh thats right because you are one of the stupid immature kids.

ha....~Black*Rose~,you must not have read the above posts.....high-horse my ass....I have never bragged about myself...I am not whining...I am pointing out the fact....you all think I am immature,you are probably just one of the kids I am talking about....you fail to accept the truth and just blame me as being rude....

I say it is you all who need to get a grip on the matter, there is a mock of poetry on this site...and it comes in the form of you naive little 'poets'- thinking that such a basic emotion as being sad can pass for a true expression of art.

I think not.

*sigh* argument with you will get nothing. this is becoming pointless. ah, well, good argument while it lasted. hey, Steve, liten up, eh? we're all friends on this site. ^__^

this is the last time I’m saying nothing. the site put up the topic we can put are poems they did it because some people are sad., and just because some people don’t have the best out look on life dose not mean there immature or stupid. you cant going calling people you don’t even know names like that i mean all the people who you say there poems are the same there not a lot of them maybe saying the same feelings but for different reason that you don’t know about. i met a lot of sad people on this site i could not even image going through want they been through and because there sad they should not write because don’t like what there sad about or what they do for it... but were not getting through to you it's like your saying because there not happy there poems are not worth reading when a lot of them are really good. it saddens me because there are so many good poets and because you don’t like there topic you say there stupid immature kids can you honestly say that about then with out knowing them.

i agree.

Maybe your poems just sucks??? Or maybe you should change your attitude and be less angry.....just surgestions...

Steve....I've read and commented on a poem of yours. Should my comment meet your standards you let me know and I will gladly do more. :) I understand what you mean about getting petty little comments....

No one asked you to come to this site. and you can't get mad that you don't like what other people write, don't read it and if you think theyre poems arnt very good, then dont ask them to read yours, if you think they cant write poems, then how can you expect them to be able to write comments?

What I don't like is people telling me to read there poems after they comment.

Oh... shut the f**k up!!! Who the hell you think you are????!!! To tell people how to write.. You writing what you want and they writing what they want! You're only 17!!! You think you're not a kid??? oh I forgot you an adult one.. bla bla...

Two groups? I see people younger than you on this site who writing much better than you are. hm... :\ I hate people like you who think they're the best.
What you have writen here insulted me personally because i'm trying to express my feelings not getting awards or a high rating... I'm writing and posting it here because I want to share it with others who maybe feel like me... If you don't like it LEAVE!!! Last thing:if you don't want to see comments like that don't ask from people to read your poems it's simple...

Everyone is cussing him out for HIS OPINION. Though he may have come on a little strong he's got a point. Everyone preaches about how they're here to improve and help improve but yet they leave half assed comments. Please tell me how "nice poem" is helping anyone. Or better yet, “great poem now go comment on mine.” I've made a couple threads in here that asked for CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ONLY. I specifically asked for people who were serious about giving and getting CONSTRUCTIVE comments. All I got was "hey that was good...I don't have any suggestions." What the hell is that? There is ALWAYS room for improvement but why do people expect to GET good comments if they don't give them. People come in here and ask for comments and votes just to get them...to benefit themselves. This site isn't about POETRY it's about STATUS and I think it sucks. You can't argue with that because the majority of the people within this site are only worried about the vote. Go through the forums and see how many threads you see about someone rating another's poem a one. That's all this site is about anymore...awards, votes, and ridiculously useless comments. Poetry is our passion…what we love to do but we treat it like a sport, like a stupid competition. I’m not here to compete with anyone, I’m here to share my heart and get the same from all of you. But all I get is people bugging me to vote on their poems. It’s ridiculous to me. It seems as though most of the people here don’t LOVE poetry…it’s like they’re only here to be better than someone else which defeats the whole purpose of why this site was ever created. But what do I know…

calm down people, it's just a thread...
anyway, i must say that sometimes people just don't have anything to put negative in your poems, so it's a complement. lets have some happy thoughts now...

well,I can tell metuka did not read anything above also...

like I KEEP saying,I never say or never have said I am better than anyone on this site...I am only saying that these writers who write about sadness,depression and cutting-act like it is something special when sadness is the most basic feeling.

I never said I was a grown up,everyone who is twisting my words needs to read carefully at what I am trying to s p e l l o u t.

would anyone of you want to read a novel on your own life? if you wrote an autobiography,would you sit down and read it yourself? NO!

so why read poems about something we ALL have experienced.

lets say this site was about art- painting drawing and all that stuff...

if people drew stick figures...would they be given a break? we ALL know how to draw stick figures, we ALL know how to be basic, so why give prais to those who do not stand out? you all are just protecting the weak. those who can not write poetry that brings something new to a persons perspective should not be given any special defence.

I can read a billion poems abour being sad,boo hoo sissy shit and still say it is sadness...been there done that...we have all cried...but someone with a poem about a make believe world, that is different...it is something no one has ever done,or been before...

why do you think books like lord of the rings is better than a nonfictional book? because by taking us into a new world (the shiretown or whatever the fuck it is called) we get a sense of being born again- into a brand new world with new creatures,new surroundings and new life in general...

those who write about basic things in life which we ALL can relate to, are-in my mind- not doing their job as a poet.

I do agree to be creative is awesome but some people only feel what you would call ordinary. No one should be thought of as less because they don't have a mind as creative as another. For one's ordinary poetry is no less important than someone who wrote something about a third world.

steve-
i commented on 8 of your poems! and you really didnt do mine back...would you mind?

uh....sure.

okay, your point makes sence, but remember that amitures that draw stick figures grow with help of sites like this. but i do semi-agree with you. and by the way, i read some of your poems, and you are a talented writer, but i think you're holding back the freedom of your imagination. think outside the box to improve.

how do you mean.

like the exacutioners daughter one you wrote, it was very imaginitive and the detail of it made up for the loss in the ryme. the flow worked out rather well. it also had a tie to real life, which always makes an excellent bonus. i enjoy deep imagination in a poem

i've done quite a few of your poems, do you think you could read some on this end? i have a wide range in my poetry, so some you most likly will like.

feline...prose poems do not always even have to have a flow...you read them as if they were short stories or tales...no flow in the executioners daughter....just read it like you would a book.

alright, if thats the way you want it.

'proes'? please.

PROSE POEM

prose work that has poetic characteristics such as vivid imagery and concentrated expression

you do not even know types of writing....that is pathetic.

Maybe she is new to writing and is willing to learn?

let me ask you this, do you know what an outomautapea is? can you define a simile? hmm? call me what you wish, but you haven't even READ ANY of my poetry, so unless you can back up those words, boy, i suggest you back down, i've been friendly up untill this point.

I returned your e-mails, Steve. Please don't complain when I give you a good critique after you ASK for it.

ack..

I can not stand this.....

ok let me put it this way i would not be pissed if you didn't say that all kids can't write. There are kids on this site who can write and u need to recognize them i bet there is someone youger than you on this site who can write allot better than you. You get a bad comment and you go screming and crying u sure sound like an adult. Oh and by the way No I HAVE NEVER givven a comment that asked them to comment on mine. Nor have i ever posted a comment that said less than a line. I allways give the author my point of view, how they could make it better, why i dislike it or why i like it, you don't know me so how would you know if I am an immature kid, how would you know what kind of comments i give, I wil never give a comment to someone as stuck up as you. No you havent bragged but you did say that your poems were better than peoples who wrote about saddness and depression. Mabey its not your style, mabey your the one who wants the stupid letters next to your name, I write to let off steam i only post them here because i won't show them to family, So yes in a way you were bragging.

Wait I olmost forgot to add yoyu think your poetry is so great you can't be on a site with beginners you'r just beeter than us so you don't want to read our poems because their not as great as almighty
you, thats how its coming off to me since im younger my poems just suck ya u know your probably are better than mine, I wouldn't know i have n odesire to read yours. But that dosen't automaticly mean My poems suck because their not about what you like, who gives a crap thats your way of writting not ours!

holy shit...

you could not be anymore wrong...

my imput... the majority of people on this site ARE younger than you and its hard to critque someones poem when they are way ahead of you in ability. Its like trying to figure out whats wrong with a university mathematics problem in grade 9. You can't possibly skip that far ahead of yourself. So just settle down because all of us get those comments too and get pissed off by it but whether you want to believe it or not a great deal of people on this site do not care about improving, the rest of us just have to practise and get our work out there to people who can understand and help. If you don't like it- then leave- you cant just make everyone do what you want by posting these pointless topics

well,good point...

what the fuck is a 9th grader doing anywhere near a university mathematics problem if they do not understand it?....getting "good poem" from someone who does not even understand the poem is like getting "I know it is a number..." from someone who doesnt know the answer to a math problem...it might be right,but has no weight on being good advice or bad...it is just simply pointless to even say anything.

...and I am also wondering why this dam forum has not been locked by now...quite funny,I am starting to think the moderators like what I have to say (or something like that) and do not feel I need to be shut up...or maybe they are blind,who knows.

im surprised this forum is still up....still the argument goes on....shheeshh....look...why doesnt everyone just stop...it would be better that way wouldnt it?....and steve dude...if you dont like comments people give to you, ignore it...if you cant find any good poems to read...then leave...simple as that...why must we all argue and waste our time?....

steve your point i get but you ever think that matybe they dfid get it but they didnt know how you could make it better or they have no word to say about it but they still might like to let you know they read you poem and liked it.. i dont agree withthe whole thing about the name calling and the part about what subject people use to write were all people who love to write cant we get along?

TeArS has a point...lets just all stop this non-sense and get along...its just pointless...

Steve, your comment was appreciated, and i'm glad that you decided to read this 'little kids' writing. i'm sure it didn't reach YOUR standerds, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Steve, yes I am a kid. But I hate the fact that people who leave comments just say one word. They just want the award, and who really needs that. I agree that it would be better if I was criticized about how to make my writing better instead of just "Great poem!" or "It made me cry".

Out of 63 comments on a poem, 35 comments we're basically 1-10 words. Not even a sentence.

For example:
AgR8aNdTeRrIbLeBeAuTy(OrChErRy) ( C D ) at 2005-08-03

gr8 job!!!
5/5

[ Complain ] [ Praise ]

Manipulated Child

Steve, your little smash about "teenage angst" poems being shit, maybe you're right. But do you not see the point or the reason they wrote it? They were getting their feelings out on paper, sharing it for the world. I don't necessarily see this site as the most proper poetry site to go to... Though I agree on most of the stuff you are pointing out in this thread, and I do respect your opinion (which, by the way, this is my sole opinion and I'm voicing it) But to bash on other peoples poetry because it is "not creative" is complete bullshit. Why don't you try HELPING these people. I don't see you commenting on other peoples poems and writing stuff that will help them. I may be wrong with that though, I haven't read a lot of the peoples comments on their poems. All I'm saying is, don't cut the throat of someone just trying to express themselves. instead, help them improve.

As for the comments, I completely agree with you. Up to the part where you said you tell them "you need to change..." because, unless its a gramatical error, I think you should only SUGGEST adding/changing a poems writing or idea. because that person made the poem, it makes it unique. when someone puts their insight in it, and the poet uses their suggestions, it becomes someone else poem and its not entirely their writing. But you can suggest things, and maybe they can consider it when writing another poem.

Okay, sorry for going on my little rant.