Satanism

  • Phantasmagoria
    17 years ago

    Satanists are not as bad as you think. Proof:

    The Nine Satanic Statements
    Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
    Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
    Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
    Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates.
    Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
    Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
    Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all.
    Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
    Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as it has kept it in business all these years.

    The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
    Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
    Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
    When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
    If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
    Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
    Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
    Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
    Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
    Do not harm little children.
    Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
    When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

    The Nine Satanic Sins

    Stupidity — The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
    Pretentiousness — Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
    Solipsism — Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
    Self-deceit — It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
    Herd Conformity — That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
    Lack of perspective — Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints — know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
    Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies — Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
    Counterproductive Pride — That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
    Lack of Aesthetics — This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing — it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

  • Corinne
    17 years ago

    Hmmm - I have a problem with some of these - How do you know that by you're being loving, the "ingrate" won't change? They MIGHT not, of course, but they may.

    Indulgence, instead of abstinence - like Crystal Meth?
    "If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy" - Oh, that's lovely (not)

    Vengeance? What are we talking about? Someone stole your cellphone - or murdered your girlfriend?
    "...if he does not stop - destroy him" - Again, what does that mean? Annihilation, or ruin his reputation, or tell him to f*ck off??

    This is a very extreme philosophy/religion...

  • Alex Marlatt
    17 years ago

    If someone is ingrateful then they won't give a damn about your love. So yea... kinda screws that point. Lol.

  • Corinne
    17 years ago

    Ah, but I would rather have love in MY heart than hate - or indifference

  • Independence Forever
    17 years ago

    You're preaching to the wrong choir. i would just as soon spit on satan than worship him

  • Anthony
    17 years ago

    You know thats just your Christian opinion it your Oh so obvious Christian up brining. Maybe we want to spit on you or your god. you know thats just a predjudice commint that you made u dont know anything about their religion or beliefs exept for what you've heard. and my guess is that you've only heard about satanism and satanists from your church or just made it all up in your head. If you heard from your church than chances are that the people that talked about it made all they know about it up in their own heads so how do you know that what you alread ''know'' and the information given to you on this page is all that there is to satanism. It's because of closed minded people like you that people like satanist and many other religous groups have to hide and do their rites and rituals in secret and many of them never admit that they do these things. We don't force you to hide in the shadows and baptise your children and partace of ''the blood and the body'' which if you ask many other people that sounds kinda sick. but the excuse for that is "no its not its beatiful symbolism." And another thing whats with up with wearing the broken and battered body of a man hung upon a cross. If anything that was suppose to dishonor your god not honor him. Also you are not monotheistic(believing in one god) you have many "Father,son, and holy spirit" are not all one guy its not really possible. And if your catholic you have all the saints and Marry"mother of god" and alot more people pray to her more than they pray to god whats up with that...oh yeah and what about the whole gods a guy and we worship a guy because they're more supperior than woman... Hello the 17th centurey called they want their ideas back. What about equal rights.

    .:None Greater None Lesser:.

  • Anthony
    17 years ago

    I dont care if your Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, whatever! I dont care what you are It's still a prejudice and it doesnt matter what i said because you would have tried to find some way to knock it anyway so that you didnt have to know the truth. Dur. so you can take your little smart ass smiley and and stick it in your eye!!!!!!

  • Independence Forever
    17 years ago

    That just shows how much you knowe which isn't much. i wasn't brought up christian and nothing satan has to offer can compensate for what god has offfered me.

    satan doesn't give me a mansion up in heaven, he doesn't give me eternal life, and he doesn't protect me. he lives for indulgence and what feels right

  • Independence Forever
    17 years ago

    Don't pretend like you know me or my religion. it's me and god, no filters. no pope, no bishops, and no church committee telling me what's good and bad

  • Jordan
    17 years ago

    These Satanic sins and rules are quite interesting to me....but I can't say that I would ever follow them.

    Satanism just seems like an extremist form of religion, designed for those who cannot supress desire.

    As for Anthony, you obviously don't understand anyone else's point of view on this topic. If you did, you wouldn't take such offense to them.

    In the same token, David, I don't believe that you have a right to tell anyone what is right and what is wrong when it comes to beliefs. Everyone has their own beliefs, everyone has their own way of bringing themselves to their own ultimate end - be it a glorious end or an untimely demise.

    As for MY views, I would sooner live and follow my own path and protect myself, rather than rely on someone else who has a "higher" power than me.

    As far as I'm concerned, I'm the ruler of my own fate.

    God might be right for some, Satan may be right for others, but I'm just fine with me. :)

  • Stephanie Naylor
    17 years ago

    People need to not be so rude

    about satan

    i mean its like all people who worship god talk crap on satan

    but do all athiests or wiccans or satanists make fum of god, i dont think so, and i bet a few people would spit on god if they could, i mean

    he did bring deiseases cancer, killers,
    and murder

    and all these bad things into the world

    becuase he is the creator as alot of you would say

    and NO SATAN IS NOT RESPOSIBLE FOR ALL THE BAD THINGS IN THE WORLD GOD IS!!!!

  • Jordan
    17 years ago

    ^^^
    Doesn't Legion cleanse the earth with disease and plague?

  • Noir
    17 years ago

    I find it ironic that Satan, an envious entity that despises us (according to the monothetistic faiths) would be a symbol of indifference.

    Ha...

    But if you want to believe in him, without harming others, then it's your own "Choice"...

  • Jordan
    17 years ago

    Well it's true, Noir. It is our choices that guide us.

  • Jordan
    17 years ago

    -nods-

    Although I do think that what you said was disrespectful.

    Nevertheless, what they were doing to you was also disrespectful.

    Basically, people need to let people be.

  • Noir
    17 years ago

    Blank: One word "Eww"

  • Jordan
    17 years ago

    Haahaha.

  • Selfrejected
    17 years ago

    That form of Satanism is not the worship of Satan =\. The person copied and pasted it from some site I used to read for kicks. They believe themselves to be satan... So?

  • Phantasmagoria
    17 years ago

    Satanism itself is not the worship of Satan. It's self-worship. I read the Satanic bible..

  • Anthony
    17 years ago

    Staphanie I dont think thats wat Wiccans are about they mostly beleive "to each his own". Everyone finds religion in their own way. And they deffenently wouldnt make fun of someone elses gods. Infact many beleive in more than one. and almost all worship a god and goddess. and your right we dont need to be so rude so i think we should all be alot nicer. o and jordan its not that i dont think everyone elses shouldnt have an opionion i just dont think that its fair for any religion to be persucuted. you never know if your the right religion or not...or if there is no right or wrong...

  • AGirlWorthFightingFor
    17 years ago

    Satan is NEVER kind

  • Carrotgirl
    17 years ago

    Great quotes

    I need Satan like I need a hole in my head......
    J F K

    You could say the same thing about religion on the whole. I'll take my chances burning in hell, no different than up here anyway

  • Kevin
    17 years ago

    There are lots of Santanist's here in Edinburgh. though mostly it's just a front for bored lawyers and people in power to get their kicks.

    There are some who consider themselves practising Satanists, and they ain't all bad, quite depressing and dark most of the time, but good for a party if you get them in the right mood.

    Point of fact though, none of them I know actually follow the rules set out by the original poster, not one, because those rules were written by a man who was looking for attention and infamy, which is why he made them so hard core and unforgiving.

    And interestingly, the ones who do claim to follow the rules to the letter are almost all under 30, which means they are poorly grown up kids...you don't see many old people digging this crap, because it's immature and you grow out of it.

    I wouldn't take a Satanist seriously, and in fact that is the best way to ward off their "magick"..just laugh in their face..do the same with Wiccans if they try to hex you...just laugh at them.

    Above all show them no fear, it is the very air they breath.

  • 19Rusty
    17 years ago

    There are good points, I even saw this on the History channel, but I'll stick with what I have, the easy to know 10 Commandments.

  • Phantasmagoria
    17 years ago

    Ever seen 'History of the World'? I love that movie. "the 15 --" CRASH "....10 commandments!"

  • sibyllene
    17 years ago

    "Satanism itself is not the worship of Satan. It's self-worship. I read the Satanic bible.."

    Self-worship, eh? Haha.... well then. It's a tempting idea, isn't it? That Nietzschean ideal, to turn ourselves into gods...to think that we are inherently noble, special, entitled.... It could work, as long as you don't think about it too much. Because, guess what? Humans are ridiculous little creatures. We laugh at inappropriate times. We get shy around the opposite sex. We get lonely. We make mistakes. We die when vending machines fall on us. We sweat, we crap.... do you get what I'm saying? It's right and good to treat ourselves and our fellow humans with respect, as long as we also recognize the absolute inherent humility of our position. For me to think that I am worth worship is ridiculous. But if I realize that I am, in fact, only human, is a freeing thought. I'm free to love and be loved, and treat others with the same honest respect that I would hope to be granted in return. I am free to serve others, to try and make their lives worth living, rather than rotting and festering in some self-constructed, gluttonous opulence. I am free to live without wondering when I will topple off my throne - because, surely, every throne we make ourselves will crumble, for it would only be as strong as our wavering wills, our weak minds, our doubting souls.

    Humans are at once noble and humble, great and tiny, somber and humorous. It is what we are: walking, dancing, stumbling examples of paradox. And we are blessed astoundingly, terribly, beyond measure. I would not give up my silly, grand place in this universe, however plebian it might be, for any illusionary throne that "Satan" would have me construct.

  • shatteredsoul
    17 years ago

    Wow
    this forum is cool

    I cant say I beleive in either. I guess I was raised Christian- but we never went to church( I've only been there... maybe 5 times at the most. )I dont know alot about my religion either-
    science and religion crash a lot too and its fun to listen to it!
    I dont know if there is a god-but there may be a higher being. maybe.
    I like to beleive that god is neither man or woman- since that too is also fought about- but just a ...being
    ugh..and now I'm probably going to hell becaue My faith wavered or something...
    and hmm the concept of after life is appealing on some level.

    who beleves in spirits of 'ghosts'?

  • Laybelled with a name
    17 years ago

    I completly agree with this forum, I hate it when people think Satan is 'Evil' or wateva, or what they were brought up to belive.

    Devil in Latin means the Joker, Satan means the accuser.

    The only thing I've ever agreed with in my whole life is Satanism.

    I mean cumon, its common sense !

  • 19Rusty
    17 years ago

    ^^ Never seen the movie.

  • Romancing the Darker Side
    17 years ago

    I was, too brought up a catholic I suppose, I mean I only went to church when my grandmother begged me to, and I never got baptized or thrown in water for someone who I can't even be sure is there... so I'm sort of hanging between Athiest and Wiccan right now. Anyways, I think more people would be involved in Satanism if it were called something else. People are automatically scared of anything with Satan in the name. It's a bit ridiculous.

  • DeathlyAmore
    17 years ago

    This is a terrible thread.

    Really it is.

    [TO the person who started this thread]

    Why would you post the Satanic Sins and The Rules of the church? Do you not realize thats ignorance?

    Also, You are not aloud to preach. Only a 3rd degree Satanic [Priest or Priestess], can preach for people in other interested Parties.

    Also, do not answer unless you are asked, No one asked you about this.